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re: Wild hogs chomp and stomp their way through $90 million worth of Louisiana crops
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:07 pm to White Bear
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:07 pm to White Bear
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Hunting them is now an industry, hogs aren’t going anywhere.
You have hog hunting operations here in Oklahoma paying pretty good money for mature trapped hogs that they can turn loose in their high fenced land.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:15 pm to Pintail
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Sorry to take this on a tangent, but am I missing something? How would this not be allowed, but picking up litter on the side of the road is?
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Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
it probably is allowed. as is litter pickup, as is farming. once you're incarcerated/convicted, that "except" comes into play.
slavery/involuntary servitude is now under the purview of the State. the state now owns the convicted person.
that's what it says.
it's not that hard.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:21 pm to mthorn2
All the big ones I’ve shot in South Tx are greasy and reek. Females not as bad as another stated. Maybe 125 would be my max rather than 70
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:30 pm to El Segundo Guy
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Hunting them is now an industry, hogs aren’t going anywhere.
Too many people see them as a target opportunity to get rid of them now. That mixed with the litigation culture ensuring that no land owner wants anyone willing to put a dent in the population on their land.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:30 pm to LegendInMyMind
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You incentivize killing the hogs. The only people with direct skin in the game are already fighting the war, but it isn't enough. Others aren't motivated enough to keep up the pace needed to curb the problem. There are historical accounts of ridding an ecosystem of invasive, destructive species, but it is usually a complicated, drawn out, and expensive process.
In my area the people who have problems with them on their place see them as a revenue stream...they charge people to hunt them. They are more interested in making a couple of thousand dollars a year than they are in keeping a destructive as hell animal off their place. I have seen this in Texas and New Mexico as well. frick the landowners, if they want to charge people willing to take some out let them deal with it the best they can.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:31 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Prisoners at Angola have been farm and livestock workers since it opened essentially.
I mean, it's called 'The Farm' for a reason.
Yeah it ain't 'cause they're raising a crop of responsible citizens....
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:31 pm to El Segundo Guy
quote:that’s all it is as it does nothing beneficial towards controlling hog populations.
fun
“We can hunt hogs year around and get more value from muh lease fees” is how the majority of these fkn morons think.
This post was edited on 2/21/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:34 pm to SUB
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Hogs are one of the truly delicious pests. It still baffles me how we haven't turned this into an opportunity. Is it too costly to trap or hunt them and sell the meat? I know there is red tape for selling wild game, but this just seems like an opportunity squandered.
From what i understand, wild hogs are exceedingly gamey.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:35 pm to SUB
quote:feral hogs are not a game species
wild game
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:35 pm to White Bear
It is bad. I hunt Ft Sill for elk and big bucks and there are so many hogs there. They've tried just about every way to curb the population. Now one reason the hunting for them sucks is outside of gun season for elk/deer, you can only use a .22 rimfire.
But the government has to contract out teams with helicopters to gave any impact on the hog population at all.
But the government has to contract out teams with helicopters to gave any impact on the hog population at all.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:37 pm to BugAC
Might be a stupid idea but why not harvest them and burn them to create electricity? I'm sure their fat bodies will burn like gasoline, driving a boiler, turbine and generator.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:38 pm to John88
I got confused and thought this was the Lizzo thread.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:38 pm to biglego
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I would gladly shoot hogs for free. I bet a lot of guys would. But nobody is inviting me to go onto their property to do it. And then there are “ranches” that charge $1 per pound to shoot a feral hog which quickly renders it too expensive to bother with. Those places aren’t interested in eradicating the hogs.
Most landowners are not interested in it. They see them as a source of revenue without regard to the damage they are doing to their property.
There is a way to keep them and all destructive animals in check. They do it in most of Europe. If you own land in Europe and an animal BELEIVED to have come from your land damages the property of another person you are responsible. You can mitigate this risk by allowing hunting on your land. If your hunting is properly managed and documented...you have a professional game manager keeping records of efforts and populations, the exposure is severely limited or non existent. You almost never hear of car accidents involving deek, elk and wild boars because they are micro managed instead of at the state level...each land owner is responsible. They also make a lot of money off of their effort because they have high quality hunting opportunities. Finally all hunting and fishing in Europe is considered a commercial operation...so when you kill a couple of wild boars a local meat market or restaurant can and will pay you for them. We are not really interested in doing anything. Landowners are happy to charge to kill them but won't let someone hunt on their place on a dare.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:38 pm to SUB
quote:they get smart - fast
ogs are one of the truly delicious pests. It still baffles me how we haven't turned this into an opportunity. Is it too costly to trap or hunt them and sell the meat? I know there is red tape for selling wild game, but this just seems like an opportunity squandered.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:39 pm to El Segundo Guy
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I have a guy a couple miles from me that hunts wild hogs with dogs. He has some curs he uses as chase dogs and then a pit bull he uses as a catch dog. He has to put body armor on the pit bull.
Anyway, he uses no firearms. Just ropes to wrangle the wild hog then a knife in the throat to kill it.
I never would have believed how crazy it was if I hadn't gone with him once. Talk about some crazy Okie fun.
Pretty common around east Georgia and South Carolina. Crazy shite.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:39 pm to TSmith
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Might be a stupid idea but why not harvest them and burn them to create electricity? I'm sure their fat bodies will burn like gasoline, driving a boiler, turbine and generator.
Maybe we could use them like we used to use whale oil? I think i just found a new "green energy" scam to sell to environmental morons.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:41 pm to John88
I have more this year than ever. Put six in the freezer and have at least 15 currently on my land.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:45 pm to John88
Farmers and land owners need to organize and approach state agencies and crop insurance providers to pay a bounty on every wild hog killed.
$90 million plus would pay a lot of bounties. Some of the hunt for hire groups would probably oppose it and try to use politics to prevent or limit it though.
$90 million plus would pay a lot of bounties. Some of the hunt for hire groups would probably oppose it and try to use politics to prevent or limit it though.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:45 pm to BugAC
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From what i understand, wild hogs are exceedingly gamey.
Lot of debate here but in my experience it depends on what they have been eating. The bigger boars are more prone to be carnivorous and eat carrion which makes them smell and taste bad for obvious reasons.
I have eaten both big boars and sows that have been on my feeder for a month and they taste fine.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 1:47 pm to Purple Spoon
Mine are corn fed year round and I haven’t had a bad one yet. Biggest was a 322 lb bar. Some redneck castrated it and let it go. Best tasting one yet.
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