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re: USCP will not charge anyone in the Senate gay sex video.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:22 am to Corinthians420
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:22 am to Corinthians420
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Corinthians420
This “it” definitely gets pegged
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:23 am to Roy Curado
Public sex is no longer a crime. Got it.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:27 am to Proximo
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This “it” definitely gets pegged
Damn i must have hit a nerve. Sorry guy, I'm sure you'll survive.
I wouldn't expect someone that fricks dogs to be so judgemental
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Interests:Pumping Iron & dogs
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:30 am to Roy Curado
Rules for thee, not for me
Wait till, some how shite for brains wins, and his VP takes over and fricks us all.
I liked being fricked by old men,
Sincerely,
Board libtards
Wait till, some how shite for brains wins, and his VP takes over and fricks us all.
I liked being fricked by old men,
Sincerely,
Board libtards
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:31 am to SeeeeK
We're gonna get fricked by old men no matter who wins the election. It's been happening for at least the past 50 years.
Elections are pointless when the same people will be running the show no matter who wins
I hope that your team wins so you can feel good for a few weeks and then everything can still be the same
Elections are pointless when the same people will be running the show no matter who wins
I hope that your team wins so you can feel good for a few weeks and then everything can still be the same
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 11:34 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:30 pm to DavidTheGnome
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A bit mellow dramatic over a gay sex vid no? This is THE issue for you?
Honestly that's not even really the issue per se. It's the fact that something literally this outrageous can happen and congress is so fricked that neither side of the isle wants to throw stones.
Think about that. Even the bible-thumping "decent folk" republicans are like "oh yeah, um... yikes.. that's just disgusting and um..." (trails off). Then it's quickly swept under the 24 hour news cycle rug. They don't want to talk about it. The Dems CERTAINLY don't wanna talk about. Nobody does. Because they're all literally so fricking disgusting and vile and fricked up, they all just want it to go away.
Epstein's list? Where is it? Got pretty quiet, didn't it.
My new years resolution was to zone out and shut it off. I don't go on the Poli board anymore, I don't read Fox News or NBC News or ABC News, etc. I have no dog in the hunt anymore. We have no control over it. And none of it matters anyway. Life is too short. I'll focus on being emotional about things that can have a direct effect on me.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:33 pm to Roy Curado
What is there to charge? Dress rehearsals for what they will do to the American Taxpayer seems reasonable. Don't want to mess up when the stage lights come on.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:43 pm to Corinthians420
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First of all indecent exposure is exposing your genitals in public.
You realize its a public government building? If I peed in the corner of the hallway and got caught on camera it would be an indecent exposure charge.
Its not an apartment. Its not a private commercial building with an office and a lock on it.
Its an open building, with an unlocked door and they had sex in it.
Don't you think there's a reason why high school kids and lovers don't use public buildings as a meetup shack? Hint: they'd go to jail if not prison.
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2nd of all you do realize a republican staffer got caught doing the same thing in 2022 and wasn't charged either right? Just released from his job, the same thing that happened here.
How is that a good thing?! I think he should've been charged, prosecuted and convicted with the consequences following him just like this deviant.
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Party politics has broken you frickers. You aren't on a team, quit pretending you are.
It's one big club, and you ain't in it
What does part politics have to do with this? This deviant was a progressive. If Lyndsay Graham did the same thing in a bathroom with a staffer I want him held accountable too.
My point is that progressive policies decriminalized or led to the lack of prosecution for acts that are/were illegal because they don't have any bedrock moral code because they no longer believe in a Judeo-Christian set of values so their morality is largely subjective. Conservatives and moderates view those things as bad either because its counter to their own moral code or because its against traditional Judeo-Christian values to have sex in public, not to mention illegal in all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
In DC however the issue is there is a two tiered system of government with which the self-appointed ruling class is no longer held to the standards the citizen are. They simply view themselves as above us and that the laws are written to hold us in check, not them. Thus they protect their staffers in return for future leverage who in turn keep secrets related to their politicians malfeasance for fear of their dirt coming out and the whole dirty game rolls on.
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It's one big club, and you ain't in it
That's the only sentence in your entire post that we can agree on.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:47 pm to Joshjrn
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The fact that his nonsense
There are laws on the books preventing people from just having at it in public buildings.
In what possible sense could expecting people to be prosecuted for violating the law on film in an egregious way be considered nonsense?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:49 pm to Joshjrn
I should be able to have sex wherever I want and film it as long as no one sees me?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:52 pm to McMahonnequin
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I don't think you know what indecent exposure is
Do you know the definition of indecent exposure?
"Indecent exposure is the act of revealing one's genitals in public in a manner that is likely to offend others. Exposure is indecent under the law whenever a reasonable person would or should know that his act may be seen by others--for example, in a public place or through an open window--and that it is likely to cause affront or alarm. Indecent exposure is considered a misdemeanor in most states."
Cornell Law - Indecent Exposure
Genitals? Exposed
could it be seen by others? Yes
Is it a misdemeanor? Yes
Does it result in inclusion on a sex offenders list? Usually
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:58 pm to tide06
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There are laws on the books preventing people from just having at it in public buildings.
In what possible sense could expecting people to be prosecuted for violating the law on film in an egregious way be considered nonsense?
Link me to what you believe to be the controlling statute in this situation.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:59 pm to Deactived
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I should be able to have sex wherever I want and film it as long as no one sees me?
You can have sex wherever you're legally allowed to physically be as long as no one sees you, sure.
Doesn't mean you won't get kicked out/fired/etc/etc if you get caught, just like he did.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:01 pm to tide06
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You realize its a public government building? If I peed in the corner of the hallway and got caught on camera it would be an indecent exposure charge
He didn't get caught on camera though. The video, which Rodgers reports was shared in a group chat with gay men in politics, shows two men having sex in what appears to be Hart 216.
It was a cell phone video. There were no windows, no surveillance cameras, and the door was closed. Just because the building is public doesn't mean it is indecent exposure to pull your dick out, otherwise we would all be guilty of it everytime we used the restroom.
I get it. It's nasty, it's disrespectful. It does not seem to be indecent exposure.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:10 pm to tide06
Also, it would be nice at some point for any of you to address Corinthian's assertion that this exact situation happened with a Republican staffer a few years ago and the exact same outcome occurred.
Factually distinguish it? Legally distinguish it? Something. Just ignoring it looks terrible.
Factually distinguish it? Legally distinguish it? Something. Just ignoring it looks terrible.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:10 pm to Joshjrn
It was on video and blasted all over twitter?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:13 pm to Deactived
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It was on video and blasted all over twitter?
Did he post it to twitter? If not, I don't see how that would be relevant to the analysis.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:19 pm to Joshjrn
Im talking about exposure. This one was blasted all over social media for everyone to see. I never knew some guys on the right also had a sex tape or whatever. Throw their asses in jail also. I dont think you should be able to have sex wherever the hell you want as long as no one might see it.
I shouldnt be able to walk into the public library and have sex in a book aisle
I shouldnt be able to walk into the public library and have sex in a book aisle
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:21 pm to tide06
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Exposure is indecent under the law whenever a reasonable person would or should know that his act may be seen by others
It's not a slam dunk man. Obviously we don't have all the facts, but if the act took place in a private office behind a closed door, then perhaps a "reasonable person would (not) know that the act would be seen by others." It's way more nuanced than you make it out to be
Posted on 2/1/24 at 1:27 pm to Deactived
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Im talking about exposure. This one was blasted all over social media for everyone to see. I never knew some guys on the right also had a sex tape or whatever. Throw their asses in jail also. I dont think you should be able to have sex wherever the hell you want as long as no one might see it.
I shouldnt be able to walk into the public library and have sex in a book aisle
They were behind locked doors in a room that was, at that moment, closed to the public.
Let's say your boo thing takes a video of themselves masturbating in a closed and locked conference room at their place of work and sends it to you. You then upload it to twitter.
Are you under the impression that their otherwise perfectly legal (if unprofessional) behavior later becomes criminal because someone else (you) put it into the public sphere?
That's simply not how criminal statutes work.
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