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re: USCP will not charge anyone in the Senate gay sex video.

Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
8716 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 3:39 pm to
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Imagine if this was 2 MAGAs that snuck into Nancy pelosi’s office and filmed a porno on her desk. It’s all you would hear about anytime you turned on the TV and the Dems would be livid. And they would be in jail right now.

I think they would probably be charged with trespassing if they didn't work in the building, as the colbert show was. The reason Colberts charges were dropped is because they were invited in and never told to leave.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 3:40 pm
Posted by PurpleandGold Motown
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Oct 2007
22228 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:17 pm to
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A closed door that can be opened does not meet a threshold of being protected or private.


People this invested in peosecuting some no name staffer are gayer than the dude with a dick up his arse.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
8716 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:24 pm to
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People this invested in peosecuting some no name staffer are gayer than the dude with a dick up his arse.


Its just like the democrats trying to charge Trump with all kinds of bullshite. The left and the right are the same.
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6634 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:49 pm to
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When there wasn’t immediately complete and total disdain for it, I realized that there are forces at work in American politics that I have no control over nor ever will have.


This is why I will vote for Trump. The "forces at work in American politics" in DC hate him and that's good enough for me.

You don't throw a grenade because you love the grenade, you throw to frick people up. Watching leftists squirm over Trump gives me fuel.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29892 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:54 pm to
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Don't you think there's a reason why high school kids and lovers don't use public buildings as a meetup shack? Hint: they'd go to jail if not prison.




They didn't at your school?
Posted by Rabby
Member since Mar 2021
683 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:26 pm to
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The actual standard is that the statute requires exposure “at such a time and place where as a reasonable man knows or should know his act will be open to the observation of others.” In the few cases I’ve skimmed, doors being closed and/or locked are of significant importance as they illustrate an intent for the act to remain private.

Actually, you and I agree on this more than we disagree.
However, the fact that this was being captured on video does present an odd wrinkle to your point.
Are you asserting that the exposure must be live? Or can the recording serve as what we consider the exposure which completes that element of indecent public exposure? You see, it was in fact publicly exposed, albeit belatedly. This fact could be very relevant in terms of the fullest meaning of that element. So, the argument could be made that it may have been intended for exposure all along. We do live in the digital age - so to speak...
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
28468 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:50 pm to
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Actually, you and I agree on this more than we disagree.
However, the fact that this was being captured on video does present an odd wrinkle to your point.
Are you asserting that the exposure must be live? Or can the recording serve as what we consider the exposure which completes that element of indecent public exposure? You see, it was in fact publicly exposed, albeit belatedly. This fact could be very relevant in terms of the fullest meaning of that element. So, the argument could be made that it may have been intended for exposure all along. We do live in the digital age - so to speak...


For the sake of indecent exposure-esque laws, yes, I would argue that it would have to be live. With that said, practically every jurisdiction has more generalized laws that cover obscenity. As an example, Louisiana covers both under our Obscenity law: LINK

So our Section (A)(1) would cover behavior envisioned in the previously summarized (though not specifically quoted) public lewdness statute while (A)(2) would cover the recording of the act with the intent to disseminate it to the public for commercial gain. But as you can see, generally speaking, the location is irrelevant for (A)(2) type laws.
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
7952 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:56 pm to
If you’re liberal, no charge. Two tiered system is extremely obvious at this point
Posted by bad93ex
Walnut Cove
Member since Sep 2018
28489 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:56 pm to
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Imagine if this was 2 MAGAs that snuck into Nancy pelosi’s office and filmed a porno on her desk. It’s all you would hear about anytime you turned on the TV and the Dems would be livid. And they would be in jail right now.



Porno title:

Insurrection 2: Electric Boogaloo
Posted by Smoke239
Member since Jan 2024
121 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:16 am to
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What crime do y'all want them charged with?


Sodomy
Disorderly Conduct
Public Indecency
Voyeurism
Trespassing

Start there
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
77874 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:16 am to
Those heavily armed right wing extremists, who happened to forget their guns when they went to overthrow the US government
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
66333 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:29 am to
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Sodomy


That’s a crime?

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Disorderly Conduct


Eh. Maybe.

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Public Indecency


They weren’t in public.

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Voyeurism


Don’t think you understand what term.

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Trespassing


It isn’t trespassing if you have access.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
8355 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 1:30 am to
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Sodomy
Disorderly Conduct
Public Indecency
Voyeurism
Trespassing


Name 5 things that politicians do to the country everyday once they get elected.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
28468 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:47 am to
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Sodomy
Disorderly Conduct
Public Indecency
Voyeurism
Trespassing


The first one was deemed unconstitutional over two decades ago. See: Lawrence v. Texas.

Link to the statutes for the rest and we can go through them line by line
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
72613 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:52 am to
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A bit mellow dramatic over a gay sex vid no? This is THE issue for you?


No it's the absurdity of all of it.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
66002 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:56 am to
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Why would any reasonable minded person have any trust in a system that allow this type of behaviors to go unchecked? Serious question? for those of you who still believe elections and getting the right people in Washington matter.


That’s what they want. They want you to lose faith in the system. They’re purposefully collapsing the system so no one will mind when they replace the system. Anyone who’s familiar with the history of communism, knows this is straight out of the communists handbook on how to bring about the “worldwide revolution of the proletariat”. None of this is by accident.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
66002 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:59 am to
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Public Indecency



quote:

They weren’t in public.


Help me understand how you came to such an absurdly stupid conclusion that the US Capital isn’t public. Walk me though that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
266189 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:03 am to
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Public Indecency


They weren’t in public.


What?

Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
56579 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:05 am to

Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
12530 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 8:19 am to
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People this invested in peosecuting some no name staffer are gayer than the dude with a dick up his arse.

I don’t care what combination of inputs and outputs are involved, people shouldn’t be bending each other in a public government building.

Set aside the law, which I still believe would support a prosecution if the local authorities were inclined to do so.

Are the people against prosecution ok with people having sex in government buildings with an unlocked door that anyone could walk into?

Then filming it and posting it online.

No issue with that at all?
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