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Question for you old farts regarding the North Carolina Tar Heels 4 Corner Offense
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:49 am
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:49 am
I'm amazed that people would spend their hard earned money to watch that nonsense.
You're sitting in the stands, Michael Jordan & James Worthy are on the court, and you're sitting there watching them play keep away for the final 15 minutes of every game.
Someone told me that there was an old saying that Dean Smith is the only guy that could ever stop Michael Jordan.
What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
You're sitting in the stands, Michael Jordan & James Worthy are on the court, and you're sitting there watching them play keep away for the final 15 minutes of every game.
Someone told me that there was an old saying that Dean Smith is the only guy that could ever stop Michael Jordan.
What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:56 am to Bob Bass
Because people did get tired of watching them stand around and play keep away.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:00 am to Bob Bass
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What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
I’m wondering if there were people back then who tried to tell us that college hoops wasn’t supposed to be entertainment, therefore a shot clock wasn’t needed
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:01 am to Bob Bass
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Someone told me that there was an old saying that Dean Smith is the only guy that could ever stop Michael Jordan.
Who's the only person to hold Jordan under 20? Dean Smith
Posted on 2/1/24 at 9:11 am to Bob Bass
I remember a game between UNC and Duke. Carolina came out in the first half and played 4 corners. At halftime the score was 7-0 Duke. The final ended up 47-40. 
Dean Smith is one of the most overrated coaches ever.
Dean Smith is one of the most overrated coaches ever.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:53 am to Bob Bass
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I'm amazed that people would spend their hard earned money to watch that nonsense.
Well, Bob, sports evolve and grow with the passage of time. The forward pass used to not be a thing in football.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:54 am to Bob Bass
quote:Inertia is a powerful force.
What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
Why did it take so goddman long to have suitcases with rollers?
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:02 pm to Bob Bass
Dean Smith said he didn’t like it but it worked. Boring is not a strong enough word.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:15 pm to Bob Bass
University of NC Charlotte perfected it, Cornbread Maxwell teams. Princeton pretty much does it with a shot clock.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:27 pm to Bob Bass
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What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
Some folks don't want change, it's nothing new in that regard even today.
But I never liked it. IMHO it cost Dean Smith at least 2 national titles. For sure the '77 Final loss to Marquette, even Al Macquire said as much, "they were whipping us pretty good then they went to the four corners and their sweat dried," Macquire said.
Some felt it was strategic coaching and coaches who used it often got complimented for being cerebral coaches. Even Dale who knew his reputation nationally was not as a strategist, but longed to be thought of as one, would use it a lot.
I can remember one time Dale went to it at home and the crowd booed the move, Dale had a conniption fit on the sideline screaming at the fans to cheer it not boo it, and of course post-game he went off about it too, saying fans at UNC gave standing ovations when they went into it...whether that is true or not I'm not sure mattered to Dale.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 2/1/24 at 5:04 pm to Bob Bass
Go find the Cincinnati/Kentucky game from 1984 or 85. Final was like 25-11. Halftime score was like 11-4.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 6:15 pm to Bob Bass
Like watching soccer yet people still watch that boring crap
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:07 pm to Bob Bass
Dean Smith was quoted many times as saying the implementation of the shot clock helped UNC, who more often than not was a superior team. Made it far more difficult for underdogs.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:43 pm to Bob Bass
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What took so long for people to demand a shot clock ?
We didn't have internet message boards for people to complain about it....
Posted on 2/2/24 at 12:07 am to Bob Bass
John Wooden once said: "I believe Dean over-coached". Referring to the 4-corners. Only man who could stop Michael Jordan, was Dean Smith...is the old joke.
Wooden was one of the first to run a fast-break full court pressure offense while so many held the ball.
North Carolina students wanted Smith fired his first 5 years.
UCLA would win games 90-60.
North Carolina would win games 55-45.
Wooden was one of the first to run a fast-break full court pressure offense while so many held the ball.
North Carolina students wanted Smith fired his first 5 years.
UCLA would win games 90-60.
North Carolina would win games 55-45.
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 12:09 am
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:27 am to Bob Bass
Virginia perfected it.
Posted on 2/2/24 at 10:34 am to Bob Bass
Dale Brown used to do that in the early 80's.
The game is just different now, not really much in common.
Nobody cares now if you have a good 7 ft center, which used to be key. It's not really important to have a forward with tons of moves around the basket. You want guys who can shoot 25 ft jumpers regularly.
It's okay to like both styles, but I do miss the older game.
The game is just different now, not really much in common.
Nobody cares now if you have a good 7 ft center, which used to be key. It's not really important to have a forward with tons of moves around the basket. You want guys who can shoot 25 ft jumpers regularly.
It's okay to like both styles, but I do miss the older game.
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