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Does LSU have any National Chsmpionship other than ‘58 if Saban doesn’t come to LSU?

Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:59 pm
Posted by NorthTiger
Upper 40
Member since Jan 2004
3846 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 4:59 pm
I’ve always been a “if you build it they will come” believer is program building.

We’ll never know the answer to my question. I don’t believe we win the 2003 or 2007 titles without him so i’m thinking we may onky have that one without Sabans swing through Baton Rouge.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84964 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:00 pm to
Yes
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
10152 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:00 pm to
1908, time to recognize
Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10272 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

We’ll never know the answer to my question. I don’t believe we win the 2003 or 2007 titles without him so i’m thinking we may onky have that one without Sabans swing through Baton Rouge.


No doubt he got the LSU machine rolling. Anyone who says other wise is a fool. Everyone says Miles won 2007 with Saban's players.

ETA - and history isn't kind when the greats move on. Odds are against the successor maintaining that success.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
15383 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:01 pm to
You never know but I’d say more likely than not we would have remained a mid tier program. I’m not sure who else would have come along and unlocked the power in the soil here
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25128 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:05 pm to
Possibly, but we’ll never know thankfully. We need to be very appreciative for what we’ve enjoyed as sports fans. There are 120+ schools that would give anything for even a fraction of our success since Saban.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
3961 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
The correct question to ask is — how many Natty’s do we have if Skip takes Saban back when he asked after NFL instead of sticking with Les?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
27425 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:06 pm to
All the SEC teams stepped it up in the early 2000s. No reason to think LSU wouldn't have as well, eventually.
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14147 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:10 pm to
It's hard to admit, but I really don't think we do.

He's a dick that left us, but he's the person that laid the groundwork for what we are today.

In the end, I really think LSU will always hold a special place in his heart. It was his 1st Natty, & he knows that he turned LSU into a consistent contender.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57526 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Does LSU have any National Chsmpionship other than ‘58 if Saban doesn’t come to LSU?



No
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4051 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
NO
and for that I am eternally grateful to him.
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
688 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:14 pm to
LSU went from paying coaches a few hundred thousand, to making Saban the 2nd highest paid coach in football the day he arrived in BR, with a contract that automatically made him the highest paid if he won a NC, which he did. LSU built Saban a new building, and the finest football facilities in the land, so he could out-recruit everyone and build himself into a legend. Already the highest paid coach, he was offered a raise to stay, but decided he couldn't pass up the NFL.

It was the commitment to football greatness from LSU that made Saban, and created those national championships, not the other way around. In a way, LSU is to blame for sparking the current era of absurd coaching salary inflation when it hired Saban 24 years ago.

Here's what you should be asking: how many National Championships does LSU have today if Saban stayed in Miami?
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 5:21 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
54652 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:16 pm to
I hate saban for coaching at bama but without him coming in and establishing LSU to a contender I don’t think lsu knows how to win without the groundwork he laid here.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53836 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:19 pm to
Probably not if we're honest...

tip the hat folks he was the greatest of all time...

he probably would have won 10 titles at LSU because there wouldn't be an Alabama to stop us
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
31286 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:20 pm to
Does LSU win a national championship sooner if Bo Rien drives to Shreveport?

As long as we are speculating.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124723 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

Does LSU have any National Chsmpionship other than ‘58 if Saban doesn’t come to LSU?
We had 1908 before Saban.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
12152 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:22 pm to
Saban and Emert proved what was possible at LSU. I waited about fifty years to see that. I will always appreciate him. He was the greatest.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10316 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:27 pm to
Yes
Posted by poochie
Houma, la
Member since Apr 2007
6448 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:29 pm to
Yes. Lsu showed by hiring Saban we were willing to spend money. It was inevitable.
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4741 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 5:32 pm to
Does Saban ever win a championship if he doesn’t come to LSU?
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