re: France could be on the brink of civil war

Folks who stand out too aggressively will be shot down by the French government. Authoritarian governments are brutal when it comes to handling people who criticize them..

"No go zones" have been in place around Paris and outside of Marseilles for close to 25 years. We in America have just started learning about them.

That is such bullshite. You are not choosing ( we) out of financial concerns but out of convenience. Kids are a responsibility that requires sacrifice on the parent's part. That means foregoing certain "needs" and wants. Something we in the west are hesitant to do in the last 50 years. Kids by definition have a cost, to get married and swear off kids or to use the expensive b.s. is the height of selfishness. You do for them....not for you.

Don't get me started about all that.

That is part of it, but if you look at the immigrant communities in France although the "assimilated" generations are having less , those that are more recent have at least 3 or 4 and they are the most dependent on government services.

Feminism and the decoupling of marriage and having kids.....yeah

That would be lit

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One thing I still don't understand. All of these countries are led by experts in governing. How come they all got the immigration idea wrong when us common folks on the Poli Board knew it was a terrible idea from Day 1?

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When you really think about it, "Liberalism" is the weirdest mishmash of ideals, beliefs, counterpoints, that it attracts such a wide range of support (maybe by "design?).

It's the intersection of power-grabbing through arrogance and fake "good feelings" that drives it. That's why it attracts both true dictators (because Liberalism relies on believing there is a right way, just as much as a religion does - but it believes it in a socio-political sense) and people who want to "do good" in the world.

Politicians use it - and the idea of immigration because they "believe" that ALL people are the same, want the same outcomes and in the same ways - and that they get power by granting it, all while the useful idiots "believe" the same thing - and they are doing good by supporting something like immigration. That Liberalism will win and change the world. And everyone agrees about it. (There's the arrogance). Everything else just gets in the way.

If you don't believe that, like many on this board, then you see right through the heart of what most open border immigration does.

Well, here we are.

Again?

Thought this was going to pop off during the yellow vest protests.

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It's been reported numerous times that there are sections of Paris where the police will not enter due to an "overwhelming presence of Muslim immigrants". They are carving out their own separate communities.

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This has been going on for about 20 years or so.

The French Government didn't stress or encourage assimilation. Instead allowing these fricking barbaric proto-humans to recreate their own culture. Unofficially, it's thought that the French Government simply allows them to police themselves through the application of Islamic law.

Would prefer to believe that there are enough men remaining in France of true-enough grit to take care of business, if there were grounds for such belief.

After losing so many of their best men in so many debilitating skirmishes that small country has had, e.g., Tours/Poitiers, the Crusades, the 100 Years War, the 30 Years War, the vanity wars of Louis XIV and Napoleon, culminating with WWI and II.

Just with Napoleon that small country lost over 600,000 of its best men. They've never really recovered from such decimation.

Reflected most in what so many of their women have been cohabitating with over the last 80-plus years.