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re: Committee shoots down proposal for new Lake Charles I-10 Bridge

Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:45 pm to
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30141 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

What was the reason for the objection? Why did 8 members vote against it?

Article is light on details.


because those 8 people have not received their checks yet
Posted by GruntbyAssociation
Member since Jul 2013
3879 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 6:56 pm to
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Y'all would shite if you lived in Delaware.


Tolls are the name of the game up east.
Posted by sostan
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
1065 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Article is light on details.



Modern journalism
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126968 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

if tolls are in play than I am glad it wasnt approved.
Me, too. People who use the bridge should not be expected to help pay for it...
Posted by Calen50
Lafayette, LA
Member since Dec 2011
91 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

LA has a 20 cent state gas tax.

TX has a 20 cent state gas tax.

FL has a 26 cent state gas tax.


Now, let's do how much these people pay in state taxes.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:49 pm to
quote:

Didn't want to pay a toll Want $2 billion bridge for free.


I’m all in favor or tolls but I don’t think a major cross country interstate is the place for it. And considering the cross country commerce that uses Interstate 10 from Los Angeles to Jacksonville Florida, which makes it one of the busiest most traveled highways in the United States , I do believe the Federal government should pony up more than its fair share.

And I would like to know how many are actual Louisiana vehicles that use it daily.
Posted by Brinner
Retirement home
Member since May 2008
2656 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 7:53 pm to
quote:

Personally think a toll there would not be smart from a traffic standpoint


Wat
Posted by CSinLC
Member since May 2018
678 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:06 pm to
As important as the interstate is to commerce and how unsafe that bridge has become you would think Texas and Louisiana politicians would get together to fight for more government funding. Hell we throw away billions overseas every few months.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17153 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:12 pm to
Didn’t congress recently pass one of the largest infrastructure spending bills in us history?

It’s is ridiculous I10 didn’t receive a bigger slice of that pie.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34411 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:25 pm to
This is your new Governor's bidding. Elections have consequences.
Posted by skiboman1
Cody, Wyoming
Member since Oct 2007
401 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:25 pm to
Texas wants to disconnect from Louisiana anyway.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29316 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:47 pm to
Yep it’s gonna take loss of life for it to happen.
Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9330 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Didn’t congress recently pass one of the largest infrastructure spending bills in us history?


I think most of that went to Ukraine
This post was edited on 10/24/23 at 9:07 pm
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31507 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:41 pm to
No there isn’t, you don’t know wtf you are talking about. It’s under gone tons of renovation and fixed pretty much all the issues and is one of the most heavily monitored in the us

It still needs to be replaced. Doesn’t meat the standards for a interstate bridge

I know many will so no to the tolls but that is literally the only way this will every be built
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31507 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 9:45 pm to
quote:

210 was the one that had a reno a few years ago, not the I10 deathtrap. Unless there was one on I10 that was before or after 210 that I am not aware of, I left the Lake Charles area during the 210 reno.


There have been multiple projects on it the last 15 years after the minn bridge collapse

I drive it everyday and yall exaggerate on everything
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9598 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

That's simly false. In places like intercity? Maybe. Ever driven from KC to Topeka? Anywhere in Jersey? Or I-95 at all? IH system tolls are everywhere.

Nearly all (if not all) of the mainline interstate tollways existed prior to the interstate highway system. They were existing turnpikes that made sense as routes for major interstates.

The interstate system was intended to be funded without tolls, to the extent that the legislation creating the system specifically prohibited interstate highway funding from being used to build or maintain toll roads. However, it didn’t make sense to bypass all of the existing turnpike infrastructure in certain parts of the country. So Congress decided those turnpikes could become part of the interstate system in name, but without any federal funding.

There are some exceptions nowadays (such as HOV lanes) but for the most part tolls are only allowed on mainline interstate highways if they are already tolled.

I assume Lake Charles intended to skate this rule the same way Mobile tried to skate it a few years ago - by “rerouting” mainline I-10 over the other (non-tolled) bridge and changing the toll bridge route to a spur. Which.. OK, I suppose. It appears to be legal. But this idea that it happens all the time is false.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31507 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:08 pm to
They were trying the find it via ppp. Essentially contractor builds the bridge and collects for certain amount of time to recoup investment plus his profit. It was being allowed due to alternative route of 210 being available.

It didn’t pass because the trucking companies raised hell because they were going to pay a lot more than everyday local citizen


And for the idiots on last page worried about traffic from a toll…..it’s not 1957, you don’t use cash. You never slow, you either have tag or they send you the fee in the mail
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2254 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 10:46 pm to
I'm not a fan of tolls. But for people who are opposed to tolls please tell me, realistically, how this bridge gets funded. We are never raising the gas tax in LA, and most of our other government revenue is constitutionally restricted. Same for a new BR area bridge.

Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
2013 posts
Posted on 10/24/23 at 11:07 pm to
Bingo
Posted by Harry3
Gretna
Member since Jan 2021
132 posts
Posted on 10/25/23 at 12:29 am to
Name the names of the people who voted.....
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