Is JD being penalized?

Meh. That’s how it is these days.

But if he somehow manages to overcome the defense and win the SECw or even the SEC, he will be in NY at the end of the season with an outside shot to win.

My guess though is that if USC wins their conference, the voters will make sure Caleb Williams gets it again

Heisman voters like winners. Or, more accurately, players on overperforming teams.

If Daniels was on a 2-loss Mississippi State team putting these numbers up, he would probably be viewed differently.

That said, Heisman odds are not Heisman votes so it doesn’t really matter at this point.

It’s been that way my whole lifetime. When did players used to win the Heisman on losing teams? Maybe it happened in a different era but the Heisman is a team award today.

If LSU was 5-0 he’d be at the top with Washington’s QB as the front runner for the award.

He’d be higher, or a front runner, if he clinched a win on the final drive vs ol miss. It’s not just big numbers they look at. It sucks for him that the defense is failing him. I’m happy with what he’s doing and he’s great but it is what it is.

It's BS. Lamar Jackson finished with 9 wins and RG3 finished with 9 wins before the heisman ceremony. Remember Tebow and those losses?

It's all about popularity. Ewers has had one great game, against Bama, and still like top 3 or 4. Nix is like 600 yards and 4-5 TDs off Daniels, but his team is undefeated.

I'll say this, if we win the West, it'll be because of him, and he's at the very least sitting in that front row as a finalist. Right now he has 2002 yards and 19 TDs. If we finish 10-3 (loss to UGA SECCG) and he averages just 300 yards (averaging 400.4) and 2.5 TDs (averaging 3.8) over the next 8 games, that would give him 4400 total yards and 39 TDs. Last year he averaged 280 yards and had 19 total TDs over the last 8 games. That included 2 performances with only around 200 total yards and a 96 yard performance (he missed 2 halves of games during that span).

However I think he won't go under 350 total yards and 3 total TDs in any game but maybe Goergia St, going forward. They'll probably let him play a half.

Bummer. Defense can’t be last.

It’s trending being 8-4 with 5 SEC games left and 2 non-SEC games that aren’t Grambling making 7-5 or even 6-6 distinct possibilities.

It’s probably also JD having 4 prior years as a starter with some inconsistency causing some involved in odds to take a show me attitude towards him this season. FSU game probably engrained this at beginning which has be worked off. FSU was also by far the best opponent played to date. Surprisingly FSU is worse than LSU in passing yards allowed per game to date. Ole Miss is less surprisingly worse in pass yards allowed per game, and State was close behind us. Both Ark and State are 2-3 and in 3 game losing streaks. Grambling only counts as a negative when performance against is less than expected.

There are still 2 months to answer doubts and continue performing, and doing so against what will likely be be viewed as the more difficult section of schedule.

Well, if you remember 2019, our defense kinda sucked, especially early in the year. That didn't stop our QB, who was not a Heisman contender then to make enough plays to keep us undefeated. Remember Texas, Florida, and Auburn?

Our current QB has had the opportunities to win all our games in the fourth quarter.

The Heisman is now the award for the best QB on a playoff team. They need to start making the Davey O'Brien award a bigger deal, then make a concerted effort to look past QBs when deciding on Heisman winners, because it's gotten silly at this point. Mathieu should have won it in 2011, and it's a crime he didn't even make the top 3.

LSU has got to start beating ranked teams to help his case. It's that simple, IMO.