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Wired: wanting your own biological children is immoral

Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
8443 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:17 pm
The slippery slope to Hell continues. Now, God-given processes ... attraction to the opposite sex, cherishing one's own blood ties, wanting one's own blood children... are evil. Natural is now dangerous. Human Nature must up uprooted like a weed, and the flower of Progressivism must be planted in neat little rows.

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For most of Western history, it was a given that a parent would want their children to be their direct progeny. A child’s biological provenance was believed to ground the parent-child relationship in a hardwired, irrevocable bond. If anything, it was morally preferable that your child be directly related to you, since this was thought to provide a healthy foundation for growth and self-actualization. The bioethicist J. David Velleman expresses this line of argument when he writes that knowledge of one’s biological parents is a “basic good on which most people rely in pursuit of self-knowledge and identity formation.”

Yet this prioritization of biological inheritance (“biologism,” as some call it) has recently become unsettled. Previously, if you gave birth to a child, it was a simple certainty that they were genetically related to you—the biological fact was inextricably linked to their existence. Over the past few decades, however, practices like gestational surrogacy have shown that this need not be the case. Evolving family structures, advancements in fertilization and embryonic screening technologies, and changing moral sentiments have all contributed to a growing reevaluation of this deceptively simple preference. Once we begin to disentangle what is truly possible from what we simply assumed was necessary, we are forced to look at this “natural” preference with fresh eyes.

What we find is that, when contextualized amongst our other modern ethical norms, this preference can feel downright ancient—a vestigial remnant of a different epoch, a fossil no longer animated by the same moral intuitions that gave it gravity in the past. In fact, many of the arguments that might be made in favor of this prejudice run precisely counter to other changing attitudes toward parenting, family, and the role of biology in culture.
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On the contrary, this biological desire reinforces norms that we are explicitly aiming to dismantle. It places undue emphasis on genetic similarity as a criterion for our ethical relations, running against our stated hopes to expand our nets of responsibility and care beyond the borders of nation, ethnicity, culture, and even species. Instead, it normalizes a certain conception of family that reinforces these parochial categories. It’s for a similar reason that bioethicists like Hane Htut Maung have pushed back against the desire for prioritizing racial sameness when selecting gametes for assisted reproduction, arguing that this practice ultimately perpetuates a “particular normative conception of family that places undue emphasis on resemblances based on racialized traits.” Using things like biological similarity to ground a parent-child relationship deconstructs the notion that parents should love their children unconditionally, undermining what the scholar Rosalind McDougall calls the “parental virtue of acceptance.”

Moreover, the argument that this genetic tie has unique intrinsic value because it is “natural” steps into particularly dangerous territory. It’s precisely this argument that has been used for decades to discredit same-sex couples as unfit to be parents. An appeal to naturalism also easily leads into what the bioethicist Ezio Di Nucci calls “patriarchal prejudices,” the idea that it is only natural for mothers to serve as primary caretakers because of their biological-gestational relationship with a child. Language around what is “natural” and “unnatural” should always be viewed with suspicion. Ethnographic research of the Na in the Himalayas—who do not have a social category for biological fathers—for instance, shows us that even a concept as fundamental to us as fatherhood is not an inevitable product of human biology. Eliding the social phenomenon of parenthood with the biological phenomenon only sets us up to reinforce a dated conception of the family at odds with our hopes for a more inclusive ethics.




Wired apparently has a whole series coming up about chucking our morality out the window, to be replaced by something that their people pick for us:

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This is part of Next Normal, WIRED's series on the future of morality and how our ethical beliefs may change in the years to come.


Preferring biological children is immoral in an ethically evolving world

Posted by Ghost of Bob Horner
Somewhere between Atlanta & Athens
Member since Jul 2023
410 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:22 pm to
This is what happens when overeducated leftists forgo religion. They champion ridiculous ideas that they don’t really believe or care about.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
76597 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:26 pm to


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Moreover, the argument that this genetic tie has unique intrinsic value because it is “natural” steps into particularly dangerous territory. It’s precisely this argument that has been used for decades to discredit same-sex couples as unfit to be parents. An appeal to naturalism also easily leads into what the bioethicist Ezio Di Nucci calls “patriarchal prejudices,”



Dig deep enough and you find why they want to break the ancient natural barriers.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14468 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:59 pm to
Those who choose to follow this advice is guaranteed extinction in a generation or so of liberalism.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59752 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:06 pm to



Frankly, I think we're all better off if Leo Kim takes his own advice and doesn't reproduce.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
35781 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:07 pm to
Communism adding volumes of meaningless words, still result in communism.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149487 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:09 pm to
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expand our nets of responsibility and care beyond the borders of nation, ethnicity, culture, and even species


Goat frickers
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
62930 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:12 pm to
It's not a secret they despise any institution or entity that promotes childbearing.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70736 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:15 pm to
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Moreover, the argument that this genetic tie has unique intrinsic value because it is “natural” steps into particularly dangerous territory.


Darwin who?
Posted by BengalOnTheBay
Member since Aug 2022
3855 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:21 pm to
If you won't let a dude stick his peen in your butt, you're a bigot.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
25250 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:03 pm to
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This is what happens when overeducated leftists forgo religion.


They don't forgo religion, they just create one they're comfortable with.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25333 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:11 pm to
Cool, put me on the author's inheritance list.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
25333 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:15 pm to
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They don't forgo religion, they just create one they're comfortable with.


I know we disagree on Christianity, but I do agree with you here. Progressives have abandoned traditional religions and are unconsciously creating their own religion to fill that gap. While I disagree with some of the teachings of the older religions, they're at least historically tested.

The bullshite these progressives are imagining up isn't. Maybe utopia is right around the corner if only backward conservatives would just let them fully take the wheel, or maybe, their attempt to create utopia will end up like all the rest (with everyone infinitely worse off).
Posted by dltigers3
Collierville, TN
Member since Jun 2010
2165 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:22 pm to
The contradictions are amazing for libs. Do they believe in evolution and survival of the fittest or not?

I guess this is another example of them not trusting the science...
Posted by jamiegla1
Member since Aug 2016
7560 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:41 pm to
im good with leftists not procreating and only adopting. someone needs to take care of foster children
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101720 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:04 pm to
Wired can go shove it up their arse.

Reproduction is a natural drive and people want to raise their own kids if possible rather than adopting or fostering someone else’s.


Aim seems to be “convince white people not to reproduce and instead to raise the kids of dirtbags who frick like rabbits then abandon the kids.”
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
150436 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:15 pm to
As Huxley pointed out in Brave New World in 1932, destruction of the traditional nuclear family is a basic component of the progressive/Marxist agenda
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
1959 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:18 pm to
Funny how in my foster support group of parents, there is a lack of leftists. I’ve fostered for a couple of years now and only once did we come a cross a democrat couple in our support groups, a pair of married lesbians, and even they were left wing d8ng bats
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
75478 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:19 pm to
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If you won't let a dude stick his peen in your butt, you're a bigot.


Then they can call me Archie Bunker.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
18431 posts
Posted on 9/17/23 at 8:20 pm to
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Aim seems to be “convince white people not to reproduce and instead to raise the kids of dirtbags who frick like rabbits then abandon the kids.”
which of those two demographic groups read Wired
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