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re: Trump won't commit to signing a 15 week abortion ban
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:58 am to teke184
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:58 am to teke184
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How stupid are you? The entire position of the party is “states determine their own laws on this” and Miss Lindsay attempting to push this in 2022 is blamed for the Dems doing better than expected. Would I like this to be law? Yes. But it isn’t what the party needs and taking a stand on this so far out from the election would be a transparent “gotcha” to explain any irregularities on Election Day.
Trump is the one trying to make this a Federal issue and is already saying 6 weeks is off the table and 15 weeks is iffy. That's his starting position but he does think that Democrats being happy is important.
That's HIS words not mine.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 11:59 am to LSUbest
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Rachel, the supreme court kicked it back to the states.
It's a state matter.
Not if Trump has his way. He wants to be the hero that finds this magic solution that makes everyone happy and do it with a Federal Bill. That's what he just said.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:12 pm to aggressor
I am wholeheartedly against abortion. But at this point in my life, it’s clear to me that it is not something that can be effectively legislated. Outside of providing zero funding for it.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 12:27 pm to aggressor
The Federal Govt needs to stay out of it. Conservatives cannot make the argument that abortion is a state right to overturn Roe, then turn right around and push for a Federal ban.
frick off with this. If it’s a state’s right, then that’s what it is. Don’t be slimy and try to have it both ways to suit your opinion.
frick off with this. If it’s a state’s right, then that’s what it is. Don’t be slimy and try to have it both ways to suit your opinion.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:09 pm to DallasTiger11
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Why can’t conservatives just take their huge W on Roe and shut the frick up going forward?
“Republicans” (GOPe) want it to be an issue.
They believe it allows them to control their voting base.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:12 pm to moneyg
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They believe it allows them to control their voting base.
Says TD’s favorite stooge controlled by the establishment he so desperately wants to oppose.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:15 pm to dgnx6
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The federal government needs to stay out of it.
So if a state allows an a doctor to drill an hole in the head of a baby that has just crowned, you’re OK with it?
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:22 pm to wackatimesthree
Sitting back listening to all the hit dogs holler...
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I guess that's why all the Trump followers (smarter than you by a mile) were um... lining up to take the vaccines, right?
A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest. Then the people bowed and prayed to the rainbow flag they made.
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Congrats. So far this morning you lead for the dumbest post of the day.
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Very meltish.
Vote for the child grooming democrats then, if you dont like the GOP nominee.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:29 pm to aggressor
Trump is going to be the nominee and has my vote in the general. But how can all the only Trumpers keep living in denial?
And why make a any deal when the Supreme Court has already decided the issue?
Only Trumpers make Democrats look rational.
And why make a any deal when the Supreme Court has already decided the issue?
Only Trumpers make Democrats look rational.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:29 pm to Marciano1
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The Supreme Court already said this was not a federal matter,
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:33 pm to udtiger
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It's a state issue, not federal.
I wish Republicans would just drop the damn issue already. They got what they wanted with Roe being overturned not just leave it to the states.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:34 pm to aggressor
He's trying to get the white women back on his side. Smart.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:35 pm to LSUbest
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Rachel, the supreme court kicked it back to the states.
It's a state matter.
The Supreme Court said that the Supreme Court can't create the right and it was up to Congress to act. So it's still potentially a federal issue.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:39 pm to Damone
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Trump is obviously a moron but holy lord Republicans are insanely dumb if they try to make abortion an issue
While this is true, the (D)'s have had 4 years to replace Kamala
Seems neither side is too bright these days.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:54 pm to aggressor
Abortion is settled. The SCOTUS rightfully nullified Roe vs. Wade due to the absence of a Federal Law banning abortion.
Therefore, it becomes a State’s Rights issue. As it should be.
There really is no need to have a Federal Law.
Therefore, it becomes a State’s Rights issue. As it should be.
There really is no need to have a Federal Law.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 1:54 pm to aggressor
“The best line of attack Republicans have against Trump is electability. Every time they attack Trump from the right on issues like war, Social Security/Medicare, abortion, COVID-19, they are essentially arguing they would be less electable than Trump rather than more.“
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:11 pm to Marciano1
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The Supreme Court already said this was not a federal matter
The Supreme Court said that it was not a federal matter as described (and protected) under Roe because that was a bad interpretation to make Roe legal.
One of the conservative justices (Kavanaugh I believe) wrote in a concurring opinion that the Federal government could pass legislation that restricts or protects abortion and it could pass muster with the court. They had just never done so before because Roe was law.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:18 pm to aggressor
State issue. Move on from that topic!
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:27 pm to BBONDS25
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Says Damone, a far left wacko nut job, about a billionaire who is one of 45 men in history to be President of the United States. The delusions are just amazing to watch.
Yep but he figured out on his own how to finally turn on his computer so surely he gets credit for that huh?
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:31 pm to ChexMix
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There needs to be a heartbeat bill. Once the heart is beating, then the baby is truly alive.
You typically have a heartbeat around 5 weeks of pregnancy. Most people may not even know they are pregnant at that point.
Not a viable solution if you are aiming for compromise (imo).
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 2:32 pm
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