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Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:37 pm to kingbob
You have any contacts with any well services companies?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:37 pm to kingbob
I did something pretty similar in my early 30's. Went from practicing real estate law to something tangentially related in the government, but not practicing law. Pay cut wasn't much (if I looked at pay by the hour, I probably come out well ahead). Went from working 80 hours a week to 40. I do have kids who are young, so that was a huge consideration as I didn't want to miss their early years slaving away.
The only issue I had was having my current bosses wonder why I wanted to change fields as they felt I was overqualified, but I was honest about my reasoning and it's been a great 3 years so far working here.
The only issue I had was having my current bosses wonder why I wanted to change fields as they felt I was overqualified, but I was honest about my reasoning and it's been a great 3 years so far working here.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:39 pm to Sun God
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You have any contacts with any well services companies?
I did 10 years ago, but not so much anymore. Most of my former contacts have largely left the industry as the industry largely left Louisiana. A lot of folks were forced with choosing between living permanently in Texas and choosing a new career path. A lot of them gave Texas a shot for a few years, but moved back because they missed their families.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:40 pm to kingbob
Call Gordon. Get it done
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:40 pm to Epic Cajun
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Maybe look for happiness and enjoyment outside of work?
That's what I have been trying to do, but my previous careers took so much out of me at work that I rarely had any time left over for the hobbies I was working to support. At least Construction paid well. My law jobs have mostly paid pretty poorly compared to the hours they demanded. Nothing like leaving my desk at 7:00pm and getting the "oh, leaving already?" remark from a coworker.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:42 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:41 pm to kingbob
ask yourself three questions:
what are your values?
what are NOT your values?
what are your interests?
that should drive the next step. good luck
what are your values?
what are NOT your values?
what are your interests?
that should drive the next step. good luck
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:42 pm to kingbob
I leveraged my legal career (my second career) into finding a spot in the financial
Industry. I do really well considering the amount of time I work especially compared to my former billable hour life. Very happy and would take a lot for me to go back to private practice. I was already in the Northeast so maybe it was a little easier for me to transition. This happened about 7 years ago when I was 40.
Industry. I do really well considering the amount of time I work especially compared to my former billable hour life. Very happy and would take a lot for me to go back to private practice. I was already in the Northeast so maybe it was a little easier for me to transition. This happened about 7 years ago when I was 40.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:42 pm to Gee Grenouille
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Just sold our house. Got no reason to stay here other than keeping the kids in the same school and being near parents. I wonder what our family would do if we just packed it up and moved on to some place more friendly. We just can’t talk ourselves into it.
They would give you shite and then move on. At some point, you have to do what you and your family want to do. If you wait too long, your window will close.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:44 pm to kingbob
What are the things you didn't like about construction and law?
Why did you feel like a bad person?
Why didn't you feel you were good at those jobs and what made you choose them in the first place?
My daughter (no pics) was a teacher for 4 years and went back to school in physical therapy. She's currently doing her clinicals and likes it. She also owes a shite ton in student loans now.
I also really agree with this. You do what you have to do and find things you like about it. I'd rather do other fun things that be a CFO, but I don't just hate it and it pays really well. Mostly the things that are just super fun jobs don't pay nearly so well. Sometimes, you just suck it up.
Why did you feel like a bad person?
Why didn't you feel you were good at those jobs and what made you choose them in the first place?
My daughter (no pics) was a teacher for 4 years and went back to school in physical therapy. She's currently doing her clinicals and likes it. She also owes a shite ton in student loans now.
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It is also possible the problem is you, and I don't mean that negatively. Working sucks for most people. People just do it because they have to in a lot/most instances. This doesn't mean continue to be unhappy, but really think about your feelings regarding work.
I also really agree with this. You do what you have to do and find things you like about it. I'd rather do other fun things that be a CFO, but I don't just hate it and it pays really well. Mostly the things that are just super fun jobs don't pay nearly so well. Sometimes, you just suck it up.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:47 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:44 pm to kingbob
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For those who have changed career fields, how did you determine what career path to go down?
It's all about opportunity. If one is in front of you that looks better than what you have, balance the risk and make a call. That's what I did.
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How did you leverage the need for additional schooling/training to get the new career you wanted vs the financial need to support yourself now?
Worked my dick off. Late night and early mornings learning a skill I made a bet could get me where I wanted to be.
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How did that pivot work for you in your sense of personal satisfaction, work/life balance, etc?
At the end of the day it's still a job. I work a lot. I get some satisfaction out of it but I provide for my growing family and that's what matters to me.
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Did you have to relocate to a different part of the country, and if so, how did the change of scenery impact your life going forward?
I packed everything I owned and move to Austin Texas to begin this journey and I still live in Central Texas. It has been the best decision of my life.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:45 pm to kingbob
quote:Do you put in less hours as a young attorney?
Plus, I didn't like averaging 77hrs/wk for months at a time.
I’m retired and hate it. I’m a stress puppy. I need it. Let me have your job. Someone’s job. Any job. I’ll learn what to do. I’ll teach myself. Help!
Signed,
-drowning in Zachary
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:48 pm to kingbob
Move to Grand Cayman and work in the resorts. under British rule to a point.
You will get a new European girlfriend every 10 months when their visa runs out.
the food and watersports are awesome, no poverty or crime on the island to speak of.
And you get to interact with new people every week.
You will get a new European girlfriend every 10 months when their visa runs out.
the food and watersports are awesome, no poverty or crime on the island to speak of.
And you get to interact with new people every week.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:48 pm to kingbob
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construction and law
Not a good time, but you shouldnt have any issues finding something that combines these two.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:49 pm to kingbob
Maybe look at practicing a different area of law...government work? Or maybe look at work as a financial advisor?
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:51 pm to kingbob
Is there nowhere to use your law degree that gives you some joy?
I have a cousin that left the rat race and joined the military to become a JAG. Reached COL in just a few years, seems to truly enjoy it, and he was in a place like you before that.
I have a cousin that left the rat race and joined the military to become a JAG. Reached COL in just a few years, seems to truly enjoy it, and he was in a place like you before that.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:51 pm to kingbob
Have you ever just considered that work sucks because it's work?
Maybe you should go to medical school.
Maybe you should go to medical school.
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:52 pm to kingbob
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Considering rebooting my life
I thought this thread was going to take a different direction
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:56 pm to LaLadyinTx
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What are the things you didn't like about construction and law?
Mostly work hours. In construction, when I got to work 4 10's, I was incredibly happy. I literally never got sick, never needed a day off, never got bored, always worked happy and efficiently, and had plenty of time for my hobbies and self-care. When I worked 13 14's I deeply considered stabbing myself every morning so I wouldn't need to go to work.
In law, other than work hours, I really struggle with billable hours and detail-driven bureaucracy. I also struggled with knowing when to stop researching a complex issue to feel comfortable knowing that I had enough information to make a decision on a difficult case.
I felt like a bad person in construction because my management was constantly asking me to do unethical and illegal shite to cover up for all kinds of shady stuff like embezzlement, lying to federal regulators, and double-dipping supplies, etc. All of the shady stuff had the full support of upper management, so there was nothing I could do about it but shut up and make the fake numbers work somehow.
I felt like a bad person in law because the only jobs I could get were working for some pretty unsympathetic clients like debt collectors, home insurance companies, and government agencies that no one likes. I often felt like I was harming people just by doing my job because the policies I was charged with carrying out were tacitly harmful at best and blatantly dishonest, illegal, and predatory at worst.
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Why didn't you feel you were good at those jobs and what made you choose them in the first place?
For construction, I only did it to make money. I don't think I was terrible at that job. I probably would have gotten decent at it had I stuck with it.
For law, I feel like I excel at big picture thinking and linking abstract ideas and arguing them. It's why I loved law school. However, I really struggle with inane details and budgeting time like for tracking billable hours. I also struggle at making lots and lots of decisions when I don't have adequate data or guidance.
Law is always vague, and I would often get paralysis by analysis.
Finally, I just felt like what I was sold on what my job would be was very different from the jobs that I actually got to perform. Instead of researching and arguing on interesting issues that I have even a shred of passion about, I spent 99% of my time just pushing paper for faceless bureaucracies at the expense of taxpayers.
I acknowledge that it is entirely possible that I have just had the "wrong" law jobs for me, but I feel like the job pool in Baton Rouge is extremely limited, and that the only law jobs that are available here are first party property (hurricane damage), car accidents, family law, and working 80 hrs/week for Louisiana's version of "big law".
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 6/13/23 at 3:56 pm to kingbob
quote:I don't mean to sound insensitive, but it sounds like you're just making excuses. You're a young professional with zero encumbrances right now.
My passions don't pay me, though. My passion is music. I'm actually quite good at it. But, it feels like the only way to make any money off of it (and barely enough to survive), is to perform covers for tourists 6 hrs/night in a place like Bourbon St.
Basically, the only way to make a living doing my passion is to remove all the parts of it that I really enjoy (creating and performing my own music, socializing with other musicians) and just play other people's stuff full time and always be at risk of getting robbed on the way back to my car.
Maybe I'm just making excuses, but I feel like I have, at some point, found a way to turn every hobby into a chore.
Pull yourself up by your bootstraps and shed the depressed/defeatist attitude and do something. Few people were fortunate enough to get a law degree AND "live their passion."
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 4:01 pm
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