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re: DeSantis about to kill his chances in the general by signing strictest abortion ban

Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:29 pm to
You and the others don’t know much about Desantis or really anyone else for that matter. And don’t particularly even care to. The A1 objective at this stage in time is to trash Trump as much as humanly possible. Doesn’t much matter what happens after that - whether Desantis does this or that, or even whether a Democrat wins the Presidency. The most up front and open evidence of that is the 5:1 ratio of anti-Trump posts to pro-Desantis posts.

I figured we should leave that anti-Republican work to the left, but apparently not. This isn’t to personally bash you, but rather a general observation.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12844 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:31 pm to
He already did that when he decided to run a shadow campaign against Trump.
This post was edited on 4/14/23 at 6:13 am
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13105 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:32 pm to
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He won’t sign it. He will he cave to his RINO “moderate” advisors.



"RINO" Being anyone that doesn't like Gavin Newsom
Posted by aubie101
Russia
Member since Nov 2010
3120 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:34 pm to
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You and the others don’t know much about Desantis or really anyone else for that matter. And don’t particularly even care to. The A1 objective at this stage in time is to trash Trump as much as humanly possible. Doesn’t much matter what happens after that - whether Desantis does this or that, or even whether a Democrat wins the Presidency. The most up front and open evidence of that is the 5:1 ratio of anti-Trump posts to pro-Desantis posts.

I figured we should leave that anti-Republican work to the left, but apparently not. This isn’t to personally bash you, but rather a general observation.


Well reasoned post. I want a chance to win and I know Trump can't. We know what will happen.

People say DeSantis, Scott or anyone else won't win either, but until it starts we do not know. Trump lost to the worst candidate in history, badly. That should disqualify him right there.
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20297 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:35 pm to
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Trump's at an age that if he were your father or grandfather, you'd seriously start thinking about taking away his car keys. He'll be 78 years old on inauguration day in 2025.


Nah some 78 year olds are put together way better than others. Just look at Trump circa 2023 vs Biden. Not even remotely comparable. Even going by them at the same age…not even close. Trump seems to have lived a fairly clean lifestyle as far as substances like smoking/drinking and such. Probably goes a long way to paying dividends later on life.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
14274 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:36 pm to
That's what he SHOULD do in Florida, but he should make it clear in the primary that he would NOT do the same at the Federal level.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101989 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:37 pm to
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quote:
He won’t sign it. He will he cave to his RINO “moderate” advisors.

“RINO" Being anyone that doesn't like Gavin Newsom


What do YOU want him to do with this bill?

Or are you just waiting to see what he does so you can declare after the fact that it was the greatest possible choice ever, no matter what it is?
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116954 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:38 pm to
Legislature is putting him in a shitty situation. It does hurt him a lot.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13105 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:39 pm to
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What do YOU want him to do with this bill?

Or are you just waiting to see what he does so you can declare after the fact that it was the greatest possible choice ever, no matter what it is?


I get the concern R's have nationally, but I'd like for him to sign it
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
28085 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:39 pm to
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Democrat.

lulz

I've never voted for a DIM in my life. Whereas you . . . .
quote:

I voted for CLinton, Gore, Kerry, Obama, Obama till 2016.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11551 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:42 pm to
This is a losing issue for any politician trying for broad appeal. Nobody is changing anyone's mind on the issue and the nation is very evenly divided on it. Does he have a mechanism to let it become law without signing? Might be his best option.

What is crazy is the pro abortion crowd made this law possible when they challenged the Mississippi law of 15 weeks...
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12844 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:46 pm to
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"RINO" Being anyone that doesn't like Gavin Newsom


Getting along with someone on a personal level is not the same as being part of the swamp. It’s part of being able to make deals.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56743 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:46 pm to
It's the way it's done. You cater to the base in the primaries, then shift to centrism in the general. It's been the winning national election formula for decades.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:47 pm to
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being able to make deals.


quote:

being part of the swamp


these are the same thing in MAGA world
Posted by djmed
Member since Aug 2020
2618 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:47 pm to
Why are they denying women HEALTH CARE??
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13608 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:48 pm to
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DeSoros bois


Are you 12?
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
13105 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Getting along with someone on a personal level is not the same as being part of the swamp. It’s part of being able to make deals.


I love Trump cultists trying to explain this away

We know it's because Trump is a sucker for anyone that says anything nice about him
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
30546 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:49 pm to
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Trump lost to the worst candidate in history, badly. That should disqualify him right there.

Therein lies the most misleading and misguided assertion of the entire election maybe. That’s not to offend you personally at all. But it’s so important that we would correct the record on this because it very well may be cause to revise whole viewpoints.

You should not look to Biden the President post-election. To get the best analysis of the matter you must consider the Biden leading up to the election and I guess election day itself. Biden voters did not knowingly prefer to vote for mush-for-brains over there because they were that insistent on Trump not getting their vote. What they voted for, the bill of goods they were sold, was by all accounts still a mentality capable master of foreign affairs, old uncle Joe, voters were told he would dutifully restore our respect and stature on the world stage, he would govern from the center and heal the country, bring everyone back together regardless of political affiliation. That he would be the adult back in the room.

All that above is what voters thought they were voting for, not this manipulative propaganda created post-election about how folks were more willing to vote for this mess we have now than Trump, under any circumstances. Of course his voters were blatantly lied to, but that doesn’t change the scenario on the ground as of that election day.

When one thinks about this, it should possibly change their entire mindset as to the claim that voters would rather vote the current dingleberry over Trump. I believe that’s a gigantic mistake that has led many people astray. Sorry for the long post, good peoples.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68918 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:50 pm to
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What’s Trump’s stance on abortion?



IDK.

My guess is that he would say, "I handled my end by getting Roe out of the way, the rest is up to you and your state."
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
50635 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:50 pm to
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In the nation. 6 weeks of pregnancy.


Not the strictest in the nation.

Did the MSM tell you that?

*WI is a 100% ban with zero exceptions. Law is straight out of 1849.
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