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Found out that i had a sexual discrimination accusation against me at work

Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29016 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:46 pm
change of subject from Trump indictment boliviation.

I'll put the TL;DR at the top. Last year a gay coworker and i were talking on a zoom and he asked me (ignorantly) about monkeypox because he heard about it but didn't know much. I told him it was mostly spreading among gay men. He was shocked that it wasn't in the news, and i (stupidly) replied, "i know you and i don't see eye to eye on your lifestyle, but I think you should know because i care about you." He took me not agreeing with his lifestyle as discrimination and tried to get an HR complaint.

Damn. that's still too long.

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I work for a small mom and pop shop. We have a variety of political opinions from avid Trump lover to never Trump republican to complete libertarian (me) to typical democrat. All in the company claim to be Christian.

I have a gay coworker. we get along well. last summer, we were on a company zoom and waiting for some late joiners. We were talking about COVID and how things had died down. he said "3nout, whatever happened with that other thing? pox of some sort?"

i collected my thoughts, knowing that this guy only consumed CNN type news, doesn't really think very critically, and knows that i'm a christian and while i disagree with his current life choices, still love him.

i say "well xyz, it's spread mainly amongst gay men through physical touch. i'm genuinely sorry you didn't know that."

"Really? why in the hell doesn't the news or CDC make that known????"

sigh... "look, i know that you and i disagree about this, and i'm sorry if it comes off in any way harsh, but i care about you, and i think you should know that. it's freely available information, but not publicized because it would seem a little condemning of gay men. I hope that comes off better than i meant."

"no, no. you're telling me something the news didn't thank you."


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fast forward a few months. he decides to start posting some pretty obscene LGBTQ stuff, talking about drag shows on social media AND names our company in a few posts.

my boss knows that he's friends on facebook with a few customers and industry peers. he says, i don't want to tell you what you can and can't say, but you may not post about drag show where a guy is walking around with prosthetic breasts while being friends with some of our customers.

he gets angry and my boss says, i can't post about going to a strip show or burlesque show. that would reflect poorly on our company. he agreed, but then said, he feels like he's discriminated against at our company. 3nout told him that he's a sinner for being gay.

my boss says, "i know 3nout and his character, he did not just come up and tell you that you were sinning for being gay."

"he did, and i'm happy to bring lawyers into it."

then my boss explained that he advertised a show that was known to have had a man exposing fake breasts in front of children and one of our peers commented about it. 3nout has a stellar reputation in our industry, and has never been a problem in our workplace, but he however has been.

he decided against charges. my boss told me this while we were traveling this week. it actually wounded me a bit. while i have a typical christian view of the homosexual lifestyle, i have no hatred, and think that it would be better for him to have known that monkeypox was spreading the way it was.


all this is to say, i think i'm done being "accepting" of the gay lifestyle. if i'm going to be honest in an act of kindness, and doing my best to stop you from being susceptible to an STD is interpreted as discrimination, frick you. and frick dancing around your feelings. i'm done with being nice about this stuff.

sorry, thanks for the venting allowance.


ETA: i'll leave the foul language up there, but i'm sorry to my brothers and sisters in Christ. it's just an incredibly angering thing to know that kindness won't be met in kind.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:47 pm to
Victimhood is our chief export to the world.

That sucks, brother.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14262 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:50 pm to
Never….ever….talk about sex or political issues with work associates unless you’re very comfortable you know them…ie good work friends.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261685 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

I'll put the TL;DR at the top. Last year a gay coworker and i were talking on a zoom and he asked me (ignorantly about monkeypox.) I told him it was mostly spreading among gay men. He was shocked that it wasn't in the news, and i (stupidly) replied, "i know you and i don't see eye to eye on your lifestyle, but I think you should know because i care about you." He took me not agreeing with his lifestyle as discrimination and tried to get an HR complaint. Damn. that's still too long.


Be careful of whom you hire. Certain groups have been militarized.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29016 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Be careful of whom you hire. Certain groups have been militarized.




my boss has said under no uncertain terms will he ever hire a gay, trans, or progressive ever again.
Posted by FATBOY TIGER
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2016
9060 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:52 pm to
Counter file one against the fig.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96453 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:52 pm to
If you aren’t praising them for whatever, you may as well be telling them to go sit on an AIDS dick.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41789 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:52 pm to
I'm sorry you had to go through that, brother. As Christians, we should expect more and more of this sort of thing coming our way as God's restraining hand is removed from our culture as judgement for rejecting Him.
Posted by DaTruth7
Member since Apr 2020
3811 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:53 pm to
Just don't talk to the woke folks at work, simple. Or as little as possible. Especially about gay monkey pocks. You set yourself up for that one.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 1:54 pm
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3623 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:53 pm to
It's pretty ironic when you get down to it with protected classes in the country. Most folks I know don't have an issue with most protected class people (minorities, gays, etc) but the willingness of these folks to lodge complaints and litigate at the drop of a hat makes people want to avoid them whenever possible.


They've managed to sue their way into dislike with folks who previously didn't have a problem with them.
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
25419 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

"i know you and i don't see eye to eye on your lifestyle, but I think you should know because i care about you."


Here is where you erred. It’s a business interaction & I find this to be unnecessary.


I see zero harassment but it’s out of line imo.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 1:57 pm
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
3623 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

my boss has said under no uncertain terms will he ever hire a gay, trans, or progressive ever again.



I posted on the irony of this. Most folks wouldn't have a problem hiring alphabet people in most cases. Alphabet people, due in large part to their entitlement as a protected class, are quick to come after you if you discipline them for poor results. They're hard to get rid of even if they're crappy employees, thus you have folks who would've previously hired them without a hesitation now wary to do so.

It's why hiring should be a true meritocracy but it unfortunately isn't that way in lots of places.

This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 1:58 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36240 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:57 pm to
Smear the queer used to prevent these kinds of life inconveniences.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41731 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

all this is to say, i think i'm done being "accepting" of the gay lifestyle. if i'm going to be honest in an act of kindness, and doing my best to stop you from being susceptible to an STD is interpreted as discrimination, frick you. and frick dancing around your feelings. i'm done with being nice about this stuff.



No good deed goes unpunished.


Actually sucks that you did the right thing and now he is twisting it. I try to stay away from them as much as possible. Certain folks always seem to be trying to game the system and don't care if they hurt innocent people in the process. Hell they see the current leader of the country doing it, so why shouldn't they?
Posted by Gings5
HTX
Member since Jul 2016
8123 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 1:59 pm to
Christians who are offended by the Bible aren’t Christians. Don’t feel bad. You provided him the truth and he rejected it.

I should rephrase. If the Bible offends us, we need to change our life not twist the Bible to fit the way we are living.
This post was edited on 3/31/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29016 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:00 pm to
quote:



Here is where you erred. It’s a business interaction & I find this to be unnecessary.


I see zero harassment but it’s out of line imo.



agreed. it shouldn't have ever come up. it's a small company and we try to keep things pretty personal and friendly on all calls. i took too much liberty with a friendly relationship.

my boss and his son and I can talk about politics and religion freely. on this same trip my boss and i had some serious debate about some things he's studying right now and i disagree with his interpretations of scripture, but because we have a healthy brotherly love for one another, i know it's ok and we can work through it.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68941 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:01 pm to
Ehh they cause too much trouble than its worth.



Try hiring a tranny without having a private bathroom.


Posted by Herooftheday
Member since Feb 2021
3830 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

all this is to say, i think i'm done being "accepting" of the gay lifestyle.


The more inclusive you are the more excluded you are. You make them feel comfortable and accepted and they try to make you look fringe and extreme. Odd that.

I think we should drop the sharade and call wrong wrong and right right and do this come hell or high water. And die on the hill of truth. God says there is no other way.

Matthew 5:37

"But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay:
for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil."
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28639 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

to go sit on an AIDS dick.


actual lol
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
68241 posts
Posted on 3/31/23 at 2:05 pm to

He thought his feelings getting hurt was discrimination?

What job, promotion, benefit or pay was he denied?
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