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How likely is the USD to lose its world reserve currency status?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm
Seeing more and more media on this in the past few weeks. Obviously China wants to be top dog, and have the biggest economy etc.
What I can’t understand is, if the dollar loses its status it will virtually be worthless. And our debt system is set up on the dollar; so wouldn’t this cause a massive collapse across the world? Also wouldn’t all of China’s investments here become worthless as well?
Is this something that could happen soon or is it more fear mongering?
What I can’t understand is, if the dollar loses its status it will virtually be worthless. And our debt system is set up on the dollar; so wouldn’t this cause a massive collapse across the world? Also wouldn’t all of China’s investments here become worthless as well?
Is this something that could happen soon or is it more fear mongering?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:45 pm to Yaboylsu63
I’m willing to bet within 5 years the dollar will be worthless.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:45 pm to Yaboylsu63
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. And our debt system is set up on the dollar; so wouldn’t this cause a massive collapse across the world?
It's possible.
Also, if the USD lost its reserve status we'd get a lot poorer and couldn't afford to buy Chinese goods, which would send them on a spiral. US and China spiraling would drag down everyone else in the world.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:50 pm to Yaboylsu63
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Is this something that could happen soon or is it more fear mongering?
There would be a world war before that happened IMO.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:56 pm to Yaboylsu63
Anytime soon is very unlikely. Over the long run it's inevitable.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:57 pm to Yaboylsu63
In the real world where sane people live? Not very likely.
On a Hate America First site like this one? They think it’s already happened.
On a Hate America First site like this one? They think it’s already happened.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:02 pm to Yaboylsu63
Extremely low. It still lubricates the deals in other currencies. Nafta 2 is huge as well
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:03 pm to Yaboylsu63
Europe’s (Western) imports of Chinese goods are ramping up at a high pace, as is Russia’s.
China is also not only cutting purchases of US debt, they are unloading US debt.
We are seeing the beginnings of a possible world paradigm shift.
China is also not only cutting purchases of US debt, they are unloading US debt.
We are seeing the beginnings of a possible world paradigm shift.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:03 pm to Yaboylsu63
Not likely at all. Wayyyy too many western countries are 100% pot committed to us winning, in the end, against any adversaries. Whether or not their faith is well placed, in the end, a fiat system is always faith based.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:09 pm to Yaboylsu63
It's coming. If you haven't watched the 2 "Emergency broadcast" videos from Robert Kiyosaki (Author of Rich Dad Poor Dad) with guest Andy Schectman that he released a few weekends ago - I would highly recommend it.
They breakdown what's happening with the BRICS countries & how they're backing their currencies through Gold and encouraging the rest of the world to do the same in order to get out from under the thumb of the $USD.
They talk about:
1. the development of the "Modern Silk Road" and what that means for global trade
2. global trading in a currency (USD) that isn't backed by anything and continues to print and spend in an out of control way.
3. Close Allies of the U.S realizing what's going to happen to the U.S financial system in the future when this thing finally does fall apart and reaching out to BRICS countries inquiring about membership.
4. How the West is isolating themselves & losing Asia, South America, The Middle East, Africa and Eastern Europe with the tyrannical move to go Green in the name of Climate change and attempting* (It will fail) to bring about the end of fossil fuels.
4a. Saudi pivoting to China instead of the U.S because of point 4 and what it would mean to their economy if the Oil industry were to be crushed.
5. China's rise to Global super power.
It's informative, but bleak. We are in for some interesting times ahead.
LINK
They breakdown what's happening with the BRICS countries & how they're backing their currencies through Gold and encouraging the rest of the world to do the same in order to get out from under the thumb of the $USD.
They talk about:
1. the development of the "Modern Silk Road" and what that means for global trade
2. global trading in a currency (USD) that isn't backed by anything and continues to print and spend in an out of control way.
3. Close Allies of the U.S realizing what's going to happen to the U.S financial system in the future when this thing finally does fall apart and reaching out to BRICS countries inquiring about membership.
4. How the West is isolating themselves & losing Asia, South America, The Middle East, Africa and Eastern Europe with the tyrannical move to go Green in the name of Climate change and attempting* (It will fail) to bring about the end of fossil fuels.
4a. Saudi pivoting to China instead of the U.S because of point 4 and what it would mean to their economy if the Oil industry were to be crushed.
5. China's rise to Global super power.
It's informative, but bleak. We are in for some interesting times ahead.
LINK
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:20 pm to Yaboylsu63
quote:explain how the dollar becomes worthless in that scenario. What other currencies exist in the world that are not the world reserve currency? Are they all worthless?
if the dollar loses its status it will virtually be worthless
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:28 pm to Yaboylsu63
Very unlikely due to the fact that most other currencies no one wants.
Chinese currency is a joke. Even they don't want it.
Peter explains it pretty well.
LINK
Chinese currency is a joke. Even they don't want it.
Peter explains it pretty well.
LINK
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:28 pm to Yaboylsu63
The Yuan will be the new unit of measure for OPEC. Russia, Brazil, Saudi, Iran are now in bed with China. These are the top producing oil countries.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:40 pm to Yaboylsu63
China doesn’t give a shite about the economy, ours or theirs. They are simply using it to have the wealth to build up their military. They are perfectly capable of brutally suppressing their own businesses once they achieve their power objectives. We are screwed if we think we can appeal to China on economic terms. The only way to beat them is to convince them that we are too powerful militarily for them and would crush them if they went to war. Unfortunately, that is not happening.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:58 pm to Yaboylsu63
We are moving toward a two-system world economic order similar to the cold war but with both sides being near-peers economically and more countries playing both sides. Countries will use less USD over the rest of the decade, but they will be hard pressed to find a viable alternative. There will likely be alot of economic and geopolitical turmoil as we transition to the duo-polar world order. Ultimately the USD alternative order may fail and collapse in just a few years, it may fail due to a massive war with the victor determining it’s will, it may succeed and eventually replace the dollar. All of that to say— the USD will likely diminish over the next seven years, but it’s ultimate fate as the most common reserve is unlikely to be settled anytime soon.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:18 pm to Yaboylsu63
How likely? It's happening right now.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:26 pm to Yaboylsu63
More likely it will be a basket of currencies from the BRICs countries. It makes the most sense. There's nothing wrong with competing currencies. Having a single country control the 'reserve' currency is bad for everyone.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:30 pm to Yaboylsu63
China has 300%+ Debt to GDP. It’s laughable to think the yuan would ever be a viable world reserve currency.
The dollar may and probably will be replaced, but I’m certain it won’t be the yuan that steps in.
This is all headline fear issued by your foreign adversaries bc they know our Americans eat this shite up and further divide ourselves.
The dollar may and probably will be replaced, but I’m certain it won’t be the yuan that steps in.
This is all headline fear issued by your foreign adversaries bc they know our Americans eat this shite up and further divide ourselves.
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:31 pm to Yaboylsu63
Given the current fiat system is entirely fabricated nonsense and backed by nothing?
Posted on 3/27/23 at 5:20 pm to Yaboylsu63
China relies on US consumption for their economy so I doubt it happens without a major world war and we would have to lose said war
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