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How likely is the USD to lose its world reserve currency status?

Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
1539 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:44 pm
Seeing more and more media on this in the past few weeks. Obviously China wants to be top dog, and have the biggest economy etc.

What I can’t understand is, if the dollar loses its status it will virtually be worthless. And our debt system is set up on the dollar; so wouldn’t this cause a massive collapse across the world? Also wouldn’t all of China’s investments here become worthless as well?

Is this something that could happen soon or is it more fear mongering?
Posted by ShinerHorns
El Paso
Member since Jul 2021
4111 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:45 pm to
I’m willing to bet within 5 years the dollar will be worthless.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425823 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

. And our debt system is set up on the dollar; so wouldn’t this cause a massive collapse across the world?

It's possible.

Also, if the USD lost its reserve status we'd get a lot poorer and couldn't afford to buy Chinese goods, which would send them on a spiral. US and China spiraling would drag down everyone else in the world.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
11350 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Is this something that could happen soon or is it more fear mongering?

There would be a world war before that happened IMO.
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11860 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:56 pm to
Anytime soon is very unlikely. Over the long run it's inevitable.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 12:57 pm to
In the real world where sane people live? Not very likely.

On a Hate America First site like this one? They think it’s already happened.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
34290 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:02 pm to
Extremely low. It still lubricates the deals in other currencies. Nafta 2 is huge as well
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45612 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:03 pm to
Europe’s (Western) imports of Chinese goods are ramping up at a high pace, as is Russia’s.

China is also not only cutting purchases of US debt, they are unloading US debt.

We are seeing the beginnings of a possible world paradigm shift.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28671 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:03 pm to
Not likely at all. Wayyyy too many western countries are 100% pot committed to us winning, in the end, against any adversaries. Whether or not their faith is well placed, in the end, a fiat system is always faith based.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
15974 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:09 pm to
It's coming. If you haven't watched the 2 "Emergency broadcast" videos from Robert Kiyosaki (Author of Rich Dad Poor Dad) with guest Andy Schectman that he released a few weekends ago - I would highly recommend it.

They breakdown what's happening with the BRICS countries & how they're backing their currencies through Gold and encouraging the rest of the world to do the same in order to get out from under the thumb of the $USD.

They talk about:
1. the development of the "Modern Silk Road" and what that means for global trade
2. global trading in a currency (USD) that isn't backed by anything and continues to print and spend in an out of control way.
3. Close Allies of the U.S realizing what's going to happen to the U.S financial system in the future when this thing finally does fall apart and reaching out to BRICS countries inquiring about membership.
4. How the West is isolating themselves & losing Asia, South America, The Middle East, Africa and Eastern Europe with the tyrannical move to go Green in the name of Climate change and attempting* (It will fail) to bring about the end of fossil fuels.
4a. Saudi pivoting to China instead of the U.S because of point 4 and what it would mean to their economy if the Oil industry were to be crushed.
5. China's rise to Global super power.

It's informative, but bleak. We are in for some interesting times ahead.

LINK
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19749 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:20 pm to
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if the dollar loses its status it will virtually be worthless
explain how the dollar becomes worthless in that scenario. What other currencies exist in the world that are not the world reserve currency? Are they all worthless?
Posted by BabaLooey
Member since Sep 2020
99 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:28 pm to
Very unlikely due to the fact that most other currencies no one wants.

Chinese currency is a joke. Even they don't want it.

Peter explains it pretty well.

LINK
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19706 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:28 pm to
The Yuan will be the new unit of measure for OPEC. Russia, Brazil, Saudi, Iran are now in bed with China. These are the top producing oil countries.
Posted by FriscoTiger1973
Frisco, Texas
Member since Jan 2012
1414 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:40 pm to
China doesn’t give a shite about the economy, ours or theirs. They are simply using it to have the wealth to build up their military. They are perfectly capable of brutally suppressing their own businesses once they achieve their power objectives. We are screwed if we think we can appeal to China on economic terms. The only way to beat them is to convince them that we are too powerful militarily for them and would crush them if they went to war. Unfortunately, that is not happening.
Posted by LSU2a
SWLA to Dallas
Member since Aug 2012
2853 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 1:58 pm to
We are moving toward a two-system world economic order similar to the cold war but with both sides being near-peers economically and more countries playing both sides. Countries will use less USD over the rest of the decade, but they will be hard pressed to find a viable alternative. There will likely be alot of economic and geopolitical turmoil as we transition to the duo-polar world order. Ultimately the USD alternative order may fail and collapse in just a few years, it may fail due to a massive war with the victor determining it’s will, it may succeed and eventually replace the dollar. All of that to say— the USD will likely diminish over the next seven years, but it’s ultimate fate as the most common reserve is unlikely to be settled anytime soon.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14937 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:18 pm to
How likely? It's happening right now.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41348 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 2:26 pm to
More likely it will be a basket of currencies from the BRICs countries. It makes the most sense. There's nothing wrong with competing currencies. Having a single country control the 'reserve' currency is bad for everyone.
Posted by Shepherd88
Member since Dec 2013
4608 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:30 pm to
China has 300%+ Debt to GDP. It’s laughable to think the yuan would ever be a viable world reserve currency.

The dollar may and probably will be replaced, but I’m certain it won’t be the yuan that steps in.

This is all headline fear issued by your foreign adversaries bc they know our Americans eat this shite up and further divide ourselves.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61783 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 3:31 pm to
Given the current fiat system is entirely fabricated nonsense and backed by nothing?
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91219 posts
Posted on 3/27/23 at 5:20 pm to
China relies on US consumption for their economy so I doubt it happens without a major world war and we would have to lose said war
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