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California Bureaucrats Empowered to Dictate Gasoline Prices

Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:25 am
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21396 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:25 am
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Governor Gavin Newsom struck a deal Monday with legislative leaders on a proposal to limit how much profit oil companies can make in California and establish a watchdog to monitor gasoline prices.

Under the proposal, authored by state Senator Nancy Skinner, the California Energy Commission would be allowed to impose a penalty on refiners that charge more than an allowable margin for the price of gasoline, Newsom’s press office said in a statement.

The proposal represents a shift from a Newsom’s earlier goal to impose a windfall tax on oil companies. It would have required a super majority to be approved.

The bill, which needs a simple majority of the Democrat-controlled legislature to pass, would give the watchdog subpoena powers to obtain data and records “that could reveal patterns of misconduct or price manipulation.”

Gasoline prices in California skyrocketed to record levels last year, helping boost crude refiners’ profits to all-time highs. The fuel averaged $4.85 a gallon Monday, the highest in the nation.

The governor’s latest move in his spat with fuelmakers over alleged price gouging was blasted by the Western States Petroleum Association, an industry group whose members include Exxon Mobil Corp. and Marathon Petroleum Corp.

“Empowering unelected bureaucrats and giving them the authority to tax, investigate and penalize refiners will likely lead to the same unintended consequences as his initial proposal — less investment in production, decreased supply, and higher costs for Californians,” association spokesperson Kevin Slagle said by email. “At a minimum, this needs thorough time for legislative analysis and discussion.”


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I’m guessing no limitation on how much consumers can be taxed at the gas pump, though.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89613 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:28 am to
California deserves to be starved of gasoline and, really, all fossil fuels, with the exception of diesel fuel.
Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3023 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:29 am to
Isn't the profit at the station capped in Louisiana at like 6% or something? I think milk is capped as well.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261526 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Governor Gavin Newsom struck a deal Monday with legislative leaders on a proposal to limit how much profit oil companies can make in California


Californians deserve every bit of the ridicule they get.

Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:46 am to
Exxon, chevron, shell… etc have a Golden opportunity to allow democrats to experience the full power of their stupidity by pulling out of California all together. But they won’t. They just go along with the messaging created by people who actively want to destroy them. Idiots.
Posted by Finkle is Einhorn
Member since Sep 2011
4251 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:49 am to
Is there anything in there about how much the government can make off of a gallon of gas?

Cause last I checked the government makes more off of gas than the oil companies do
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
150867 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:50 am to
As usual, every day it seems like California tries to out-California itself. And every day it wins.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21348 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:51 am to
So gas is expensive in California because they have stricter regulations/taxes on the gas itself. So to stave off mass layoffs from making less money, now these companies will just charge all of us in the other 49 states more to make up for it to subsidize California.

Awesome.

ETA: how about ease some of those taxes and regulations that make the gas expensive. Maybe start drilling off the coast? I’m sure there’s oil in the pacific.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6262 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:06 am to
They probably just need to go the full Venezuela model and start nationalizing all assets.
Posted by Marshhen
Port Eads
Member since Nov 2018
673 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:16 am to
Now do Big Tech’s profits in CA…
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43390 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:18 am to
The State controlling prices of goods and services.


Now where have I seen this one before....
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16898 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Under the proposal, authored by state Senator Nancy Skinner, the California Energy Commission would be allowed to impose a penalty on refiners that charge more than an allowable margin for the price of gasoline, Newsom’s press office said in a statement.



None of those margins are as high as the state taxes on a gallon of gas.
Posted by DaBike
Member since Jan 2008
9261 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:24 am to
Is there anything in there about when that allows them to increase prices when the market is lower and refiners are losing money and laying off workers?
Posted by Turf Taint
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2021
6010 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:36 am to
California makes +$1.50/gallon in taxes.

Fuels Retailer makes less than $0.30/gallon.

Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38818 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:38 am to
Will be fun if they just leave the state
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22250 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:40 am to
quote:

California has the highest tax rate on gasoline in the United States. As of March 2022, the gas tax in California amounted to 68 U.S. cents per gallon, compared with a total gas price of 5.79 U.S.

When are they going to pass a bill limiting the amount of profit California makes on gasoline prices?
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
9948 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:45 am to
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giving them the authority to tax, investigate and penalize refiners will likely lead to the same unintended consequences as his initial proposal — less investment in production, decreased supply, and higher costs for Californians

This is exactly what will happen and I can't wait to sit back and laugh my arse off.
Posted by GusMcRae
Deep in the heart...
Member since Oct 2008
3244 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:57 am to
Fuel shortages in CA in 3.., 2…, 1…
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54769 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:05 am to
Dumb question, probably, but is this even legal? Is it even a grey area?
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11926 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 9:44 am to
Why don't they do this for Apple?
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