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re: Madison Brooks Case - A Discussion Regarding Alcohol and Consent
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:18 am to ScorpioMan006
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:18 am to ScorpioMan006
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not LSU and sadly with the state of Baton Rouge glad it's not LSU
Your son's going away to college so he can spoon dudes.
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Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls.
What a frickin weirdo.
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 1:53 pm
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:19 am to Snipe
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At .318 BAC there is no discussion.
Have had patients with that BAC that seem barely drunk
Just depends on how much of a pro partier you are
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:19 am to LNCHBOX
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i'm gonna go out on a limb and assume that was meant to be directed at OP
yeah, you're probably right
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:20 am to ScorpioMan006
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what happens if both are drunk and neither can legally consent to rape
No such thing. You can consent to sex, there’s no such thing as consenting to rape.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:20 am to ScorpioMan006
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Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls.
Gross. And the moral decline of society continues. I weep for the future and the world my descendants will live in.
Maybe teach your kids to look for quality relationships instead of just hookups with wasted chicks or prostitutes. What to look for in a prospective match/future partner etc. Values, morals, intelligence, ambition, family plans...not just "willing" and "vagina".
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:20 am to ScorpioMan006
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tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route
Be sure he knows, he wouldn't be paying for the sex....he'd be paying for them to leave
This post was edited on 1/30/23 at 11:22 am
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:21 am to ScorpioMan006
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Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls.
They really do let anyone have kids these days
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:22 am to ScorpioMan006
In this case there were 4 males in that car. Surely at least one was sober enough to make the determination that she was too impaired and stop it. What about the driver?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:24 am to ScorpioMan006
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Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls.
What kind of shitty advice is that?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:29 am to ScorpioMan006
Is the accused going to just offer his self-serving opinion that he was “as drunk as she was” without a blood test to back it up?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:30 am to ScorpioMan006
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Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:31 am to ScorpioMan006
I used to pick up women at bars when I was younger, and I don't ever recall this "consent" thing really being an issue. It kind of reminds me of pedophilia... we went from "who would ever want to mess with kids sexually?" as a societal consensus to pedophilia as a widespread phenomenon.
I can't help but think that both things are examples of mass hysteria fueled by a very small group of people who somehow managed to gain access to the media. Similar to Covid, white supremacy, "incels," etc.- manufactured crises.
This is not to say that people don't rape, or mess with kids. They do, but they 1) do so in smaller numbers than the media seems to suggest; and 2) do so to a greater extent than they would if the media would STFU and cover larger issues.
I can't help but think that both things are examples of mass hysteria fueled by a very small group of people who somehow managed to gain access to the media. Similar to Covid, white supremacy, "incels," etc.- manufactured crises.
This is not to say that people don't rape, or mess with kids. They do, but they 1) do so in smaller numbers than the media seems to suggest; and 2) do so to a greater extent than they would if the media would STFU and cover larger issues.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:33 am to ScorpioMan006
As a rape victim that was too drunk to say no, I can tell you no one cares to hear guys side.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:34 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Is the accused going to just offer his self-serving opinion that he was “as drunk as she was” without a blood test to back it up?
So if you are asking in context of the Brooks case...I could see it.
If you are saying in general my question would be is did either get a blood test? Did either party get even a breathalyzer? Are the courts going to accept personally owned breathalyzer product results?
I think the thing with the current case is the ultimate outcome of the crime was that the victim ended up deceased. That is why we got a decent reading on her BAC I'd assume. I'm not sure that will be the case for most alcohol consent (or lack thereof) based rape cases.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:34 am to CocomoLSU
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But something tells me she was drunker by quite a good bit than everyone else involved.
Yea .32 is beyond drunk.
However the question is what level of impairment legally means you cannot consent? .15? .20? .08 like it is for driving?
If rape is going to be charged for someone very drunk but not passed out, then I think the law needs to set an actual standard. If you leave it up to a judgement call it leaves too much room for interpretation. Good lawyers will get guilty people off free and innocent people put in jail just because they took home a girl who was tipsy but consented and regretted it later. It needs to be clear cut because a guy shouldn’t go to jail for having sex with a girl after a few beers nor should one get off free because a good attorney argued consent even though the girl was barely conscious
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:35 am to 777Tiger
Chapelle had it right...
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:37 am to ScorpioMan006
The 2 people being drunk happens everyday at every college campus across America.
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:37 am to yellowfin
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As a rape victim that was too drunk to say no, I can tell you no one cares to hear guys side.
So you got really drunk and had sex with a woman and then regretted it? What was your reasoning?
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:37 am to dj30
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The 2 people being drunk happens everyday at every college campus across America.
and usually before noon
Posted on 1/30/23 at 11:38 am to ScorpioMan006
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All it takes is one girl regretting the sex the day after
Regret is not rape. Consent is not that difficult. Just tell your son don't have intercourse with girls who are "White girl Wasted" or passed out.
If a man is too drunk to consent his dick is not getting hard. Google Whiskey Dick.
Also tell your son not to have sex with a guy who is passed out as well.
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