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re: Madison Brooks Case - A Discussion Regarding Alcohol and Consent

Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by Spasweezy
Unfortunately, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2014
6615 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:00 pm to
There’s an entire thread about this. You should check it out. It’s pretty easy to find.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30109 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:01 pm to
Those drumhead Title IX tribunals that colleges have subjected males to are even worse. They'd make Himmler or Stalin blanch.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
10418 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:02 pm to
Mutual affirmative consent is taught in every training they have to take in high school and college.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

People think if the guys are charged with rape it will erase the other poor, unaffiliated decisions she made that night which ultimately led to her death.


I realize the nature of this case makes it hard to people to want to consider what you point out, but I think it is important to reflect on.

I'm also interested in what level of liability Reggie's will shoulder. I realize that in a lot of situations places of businesses aren't responsible for acts like these when an underage person was intoxicated since they couldn't know the age of the person involved.

The kicker for Reggie's is that she worked for them for a month in 2022. Given that fact, did they know what her age was or should they have known what her age was? Maybe not based on who was working, but I assume it will come up.

If I owned Reggie's I'd probably be digging up my prepared bankruptcy papers
Posted by BananaManCan
Member since Sep 2009
4057 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:04 pm to
quote:

Honestly I'm tried to tell him I would rather him go the escort route than try to hook up with most college girls. I've told him to assume no consent unless the girl says it and to reaffirm every few minutes that he has consent.


You IDIOT!
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29452 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:05 pm to
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I've told him to assume no consent unless the girl says it and to reaffirm every few minutes that he has consent.



Can't catch a rape charge if you weird her out and she leaves before you have sex.

Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29289 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:06 pm to
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What happened to Brooks was clearly rape. Two somewhat drunk, probably ugly people hooking up at closing time is not.


Now you're talking about some arbitrary subjective opinion of what a crime is and what it's not.

I can't get behind that a crime has to be legally defined. If the two somewhat drunk ugly people were above the legal BAC then you have rape....it has to be that way for there to be any rape due to consent while drunk.
Posted by crap4brain
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2004
2501 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:08 pm to
Just tell him not to hook up with drunk chicks from the bar. Whats wrong with meeting a girl and dating her before hooking up.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9603 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:10 pm to
She wasn’t just drunk, she was barely conscious.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260547 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:10 pm to
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was the foreman on a jury for a trial for this about three weeks ago, was some disturbing shite


Grand jury is a duty that will destroy your faith in community.
Posted by Tigerbythetale
Las Vegas
Member since Aug 2014
1458 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:11 pm to

Has anyone considered that GHB may have slipped into her drink?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278400 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:12 pm to
People were upset originally that Reggie’s was forced to shut down & was targeted by LSU’s administration, but they are absolutely culpable as well

Pretty standard on a case like this
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47506 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:12 pm to
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Has anyone considered that GHB may have slipped into her drink?



That would have shown up in the toxicology results like it did in Ben Wynne.

Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Just tell him not to hook up with drunk chicks from the bar.


riiiight
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:14 pm to
Wow this is another level of frickin stupid
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110857 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

You do realize an escort may give your son a STD

Stick with the college girls kid, they won't give you STDs!!!
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37519 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Regret is not rape. Consent is not that difficult.


Title IX Courts and Student Affairs Tribunals beg to differ and have ruined many young men’s lives over it.

quote:

Just tell your son don't have intercourse with girls who are "White girl Wasted" or passed out.


If you have to tell your son this, you’ve done a shorty job so far as a father.

quote:

If a man is too drunk to consent his dick is not getting hard. Google Whiskey Dick.


In college I never had this problem. Now that I’m fat and out of shape, sure, but not 15 years ago.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37519 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

quote: I've seen cases where a guy has sex with a girl and the girl claims she was drunk the day after Suspects have already admitted she was wasted.


Roger, the hypothetical being discussed in this thread and many hypotheticals discussed in the major thread are not defending the Madison Brooks case at all.

Are you purposefully ignoring this?
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
3592 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:25 pm to
i got wasted and went home with a fat girl once. i would have never done this sober. does this mean she raped me?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260547 posts
Posted on 1/30/23 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

quote: I've seen cases where a guy has sex with a girl and the girl claims she was drunk the day after Suspects have already admitted she was wasted.


Roger, the hypothetical being discussed in this thread


Not sure where your angst comes from in this thread, all I said was they admitted she was wasted.

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