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re: Is 400 Push-ups in an Hour Considered an Extreme Workout for a TX 6A Football Program?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:30 am to lsupride87
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:30 am to lsupride87
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Because coaching is hard headed
Go look at any high level tennis player now on tour, almost none to actual conditioning running drills anymore. It’s completely phased out. Conditioning is done by, guess what, playing more tennis….
Football should be done the same way
absolutely or atleast simulating it
same with baseball
want conditioning...have the players work on their time from home to first and home to 2nd.....but understand that time between a pitch is 20s, average at bat is minimum of 3 pitches(mlb) more at HS level, and there is an average of 1 min between batters. average distance covered by a CF(which has longest average) is less than 30yards. so at most they are running 30 yards with 2 min rest between. at they do that at most 3 times before they get a 10 min rest batting in most cases.
and that is absolute worse case scenerio.
and with pitchers, we know they perform at most a 2 second all out movement then have 20s rest....so why would you want them to get slower by running long distance when the requirement of the sport is extreme explosion? 2 different energy systems
at bats are at most a 12 second all out sprint(triple) with full recovery after. as in 100% full recovery....why in the frick would someone think running poles is going to help them get faster at a all out sprint
even soccer is almost all 3-5s sprint with 60s walking between.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:31 am
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:32 am to GetCocky11
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Team Captain Defends the Coach
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Yeah, well forgive me for not taking the words of a high school kid seriously
Sounds to me like someone is a kiss arse and the coach's favorite. Gotta keep in good graces unless he gets fired. Then, I bet he jumps ship and talks shite.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:33 am to JohnnyKilroy
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I think it’s pretty clear that no combination of doing 400 pushups in an hour is “reasonable”
Sure the 1st 2nd 3rd sets wouldn’t be difficult for anyone who isn’t a fat tub of shite.
Let us know how you’re doing on the 15th, 16th and 17th set.
to be fair.....there is a huge difference between a real 7 rep emom for an hour vs
25sets of 16 every 65-70s with drills in between and being yelled at for not doing the drill correctly and having to do pushups as the punishment
big difference. both are stupid and contribute absolutely nothing to do with athletic ability but one is atleast doable for many.....the other is just plain retarded and asking to be fired.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:34 am to DingLeeBerry
Rhabdo is much more serious than “muscle failure”.Muscle cells rupture and intracellular contents plug up nephrons in kidneys.If severe enough can require dialysis.Also intracellular potassium is dumped into the bloodstream and cause arrhythmias of the heart.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:34 am to lsu777
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same with baseball
want conditioning...have the players work on their time from home to first and home to 2nd.....but understand that time between a pitch is 20s, average at bat is minimum of 3 pitches(mlb) more at HS level, and there is an average of 1 min between batters. average distance covered by a CF(which has longest average) is less than 30yards. so at most they are running 30 yards with 2 min rest between. at they do that at most 3 times before they get a 10 min rest batting in most cases.
My coach worked more on baserunning technique than pure speed or stamina. It was smart. We took a lot of extra bases just by knowing the correct angle, including some fat bois who were slow as Christmas.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:37 am to LSUA 75
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Rhabdo is much more serious than “muscle failure”.Muscle cells rupture and intracellular contents plug up nephrons in kidneys.If severe enough can require dialysis.Also intracellular potassium is dumped into the bloodstream and cause arrhythmias of the heart.
yea it can kill you and in many cases cause permenant damage including dialysis like you said. its a big deal
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:41 am to lsu777
I live in rockwall. Down the road from Heath High School right now.
It’s up to 12 kids hospitalized. No real ill intent by the staff, but more of a should have known better.
Timing isn’t great for the coach either. Just had two players leave for IMG a couple days before this happened, so it has the appearance of taking out frustrations on the kids.
It’s up to 12 kids hospitalized. No real ill intent by the staff, but more of a should have known better.
Timing isn’t great for the coach either. Just had two players leave for IMG a couple days before this happened, so it has the appearance of taking out frustrations on the kids.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:42 am to DingLeeBerry
There has to be more to the story that we aren’t hearing. How much running/drill work/lifting etc, were they doing before they were punished? Im doing the 10,000 push up and air squat challenge this month. It takes me an hour and some change to get anywhere between a minimum of 350 and my maximum was this morning where I did 500 doing sets of 25. The sets take about 30 seconds each. But I’m in an air conditioned room and I am not starting at a hydration deficit nor am I sweating very much during this time. I am 55 and I slowly got myself ready for the month by building up to those numbers for 3 weeks preceding, so the numbers alone are not ridiculous. Also, I’m only 5’10 and 180lbs so I’m built for body weight exercises. Im also a high school coach and think that what he did should cost him his job. There isn’t an offensive lineman on our team that could do that workout and not be exhausted, if they couldn’t even finish it. 8 players in the hospital with that condition proves he went overboard.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:43 am to Xenophon
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No real ill intent by the staff, but more of a should have known better.
quote:If your negligent actions hospitalize 12 kids, I’m not sure how you aren’t criminally liable at this point
It’s up to 12 kids hospitalized
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:44 am to lsu777
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to be fair.....there is a huge difference between a real 7 rep emom for an hour vs 25sets of 16 every 65-70s with drills in between and being yelled at for not doing the drill correctly and having to do pushups as the punishment big difference. both are stupid and contribute absolutely nothing to do with athletic ability
I agree.
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but one is atleast doable for many
Define many lol.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:44 am to lsupride87
Come on, you mean to tell me THIS guy was a negligent meathead?
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:48 am to DingLeeBerry
400 push ups in a row with no breaks? Yeah, thats out of line.
20 sets of 20 in an hour with breaks available? That sounds like a punishing workout but not extreme.
When our coach was pissed at us, if it was in season, we would run extra gassers. If it was off season, he would crank up the heat in our workout shed to like 90 degrees.
Our workouts would always start with 50 pushups and 50 situps and then lift and then run.
20 sets of 20 in an hour with breaks available? That sounds like a punishing workout but not extreme.
When our coach was pissed at us, if it was in season, we would run extra gassers. If it was off season, he would crank up the heat in our workout shed to like 90 degrees.
Our workouts would always start with 50 pushups and 50 situps and then lift and then run.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:49 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:It doesn’t matter the set load. Only an extreme minorities muscle fibers are going to be able to withstand that workload
400 push ups in a row with no breaks? Yeah, thats out of line. 20 sets of 20 in an hour with breaks available? That sounds like a punishing workout but not extreme.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:51 am to DingLeeBerry
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Is 400 Push-ups in an Hour Considered an Extreme Workout for a TX 6A Football Program?
Before cancer and when I was in ROTC briefly in my only semester at A&M, I was in the best shape of my life and I think my max pushups in 2 minutes was around 100.
But that's all I did. It was pushups, situps, pullups, and running.
It averages to around 7 pushups a minute. For a lot, that is a pretty brutal pace. It is for me now lol
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:54 am to Areddishfish
It’s the same idea as power hour
That’s only one shot of beer every minute. It sounds so easy. I have never once seen someone finish it. Your stomach feels like it’s about to explode around the 45 minute mark
That’s only one shot of beer every minute. It sounds so easy. I have never once seen someone finish it. Your stomach feels like it’s about to explode around the 45 minute mark
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:59 am to lsupride87
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It’s the same idea as power hour
That’s only one shot of beer every minute. It sounds so easy. I have never once seen someone finish it. Your stomach feels like it’s about to explode around the 45 minute mark
we used to have bets on who could finish, but you couldnt throw up for 1 hour after finishing
i finished 3 times my freshman year and everytime puked within 3 min of last shot and never got to collect. its liek impossible
same with the 20 hershey cakes from BK in an hour....impossible....trust me we tried plenty of times
:rotflmao:Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:00 pm to lsupride87
Speaking of drinking. Everyone needs to read this thread from front to back and take a shot every time a reference to rhabdomyolysis is mentioned lol
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:22 pm to DingLeeBerry
That’s 7 push ups in a minute. Hardly.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:28 pm to alajones
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was in the Army and have been through Air Assault school
Air Assault School self labels as a hard school. It’s too short to be that hard. My son is at Ft. Campbell and I saw it and was asking him about it. That’s his read on it. Yes it’s tough but definitely not the toughest.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:29 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
quote:read the article. thats not what tehy were doing. and even then by the end of the workout there would still be a ton of noodle arms.
That’s 7 push ups in a minute. Hardly.
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