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re: Dellenger: UAB targeting Trent Dilfer

Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:11 am to
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:11 am to
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Many schools have tried to hire high school coaches. None have been successful.


Bill Clark
Hugh Freeze
Guz Malzahn

All successful high school coaches.
Posted by Prominentwon
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:39 am to
Art Briles as well
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27823 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:59 am to
Jeff Traylor and Joey McGuire are both successful college coaches in TX and were very well known HS coaches.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13986 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:11 am to
The guy has been around football at the highest level. He's been a coach. It's not like he's just a good HS coach that's getting bumped.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:35 am to
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Wow. UAB players had sent a letter to the UAB President today expressing their desire to see their interim HC, Bryant Vincent (who has coached them the entire season after Bill Clark abruptly stepped away due to back issues), named head coach.



This is how Arizona ended up with Kevin Sumlin instead of Ken Niumatalolo.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30831 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:41 am to
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ADs should never listen to what players want


Well, unless what they want is correct. But it usually isn't.
Posted by Geauxing for 3
TX Tiger
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 8:44 am to
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That’s dumb. Many schools have tried to hire high school coaches. None have been successful.


Dumb take on a board full of dumbs takes.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19322 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:23 am to
Just heard on the radio they hired Dilfer.

Has to be one of the more out-of-nowhere hires in a while.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50786 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:25 am to
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Clark stepped down in the summer because he was fully vested in the Alabama retirement system


FIFY
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26945 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:38 am to
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It’s not a 0% success rate.


All the coaches being mentioned in this thread:

quote:

Jeff Traylor
Gus Malzahn
Bill Clark
Hugh Freeze
Art Briles
Joey McGuire




None of them went straight to college from high school with no college coaching experience.

No one is saying that a guy that AT ONE TIME coached in high school can't be successful in college. That is dumb.

But I'm trying to think of a coach that went straight from high school and was successful as a college head coach.

Currently Deion Sanders is the only one I can think of, but he's very early in his career. He's also at the FCS level which would be way more conducive to success for an inexperienced coach than at the G5 or P5 level.

You may be right. The success rate may not be 0%. But I can't think of anyone. From Gerry Faust at Notre Dame to Tony Sanchez at UNLV, all failures.


This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:42 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26945 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:40 am to
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Dumb take on a board full of dumbs takes.


Feel free to list all of the successful college head coaches who went straight from high school.



Posted by bass
Member since Oct 2016
3866 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:47 am to
Trent Dilfer is going to win D1 championships one day. I wanted LSU to take a chance on him before he started getting notoriety and before BK but it looks like we’ll just have to compete against him in the future. Will be tough.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31476 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 9:55 am to
been quite a few who have done it successfully at the FCS level.


but your point stands- being a HC in HS is totally different and requires different skill set than College HC. Without ever being in a program its hard to imaging someone having the processes in place to handle all of the day to day task. Hope im wrong though and dilfer kills it.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 9:56 am
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:04 am to
I freaking hope they take him. I'm tired of my kid's team getting blown out by Lipscomb Academy every year.
Posted by nickp
Member since Jul 2014
78 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:12 am to
It could have been Skip Holtz
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
19210 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 10:13 am to
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Dilfer, in his 4th season as a HS coach, is 38-8 at Lipscomb Academy in Nashville with a state title.


He has lost two games since September 2020 (2020 State Championship game by 7 and to 2021 AAAAA State Champion by 8). Lipscomb should win their second straight State Championship game on Friday.

In the two seasons prior to his arrival, Lipscomb Academy was 3-19. He is on pace to finish his last two years at 26-1.


Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
6099 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:05 am to
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Bill Clark Hugh Freeze Guz Malzahn All successful high school coaches.


All were college assistants first before taking big chair job
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14047 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:07 am to
This could wind up being a good hire., just seems like UAB could have done better
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42578 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:33 am to
Clark stepped down because of his relationship with his assistant. He is a disaster in his personal life.
Posted by multicampus
Member since Oct 2021
1191 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:39 am to
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Bill Clark
Hugh Freeze
Guz Malzahn


Malzahn didn't go straight from high school to being a collegiate head coach. He was an OC at Arkansas, Tulsa, and Auburn prior to being the head coach at Arkansas State.

Bill Clark was the DC at South Alabama prior to being the head coach at Jacksonville State.

Hugh Freeze was the TE coach at Ole Miss prior to being named the head coach at Lambuth.

None of them went from being the head coach at a high school directly to being the head coach of an FBS program.

This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 11:40 am
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