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re: The Pelicans have started 5-4. Happy with the start, or disappointed?

Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56871 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:43 am to
Both.

Injuries played a part. Still I can't help but think we underperformed.

Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
22817 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:45 am to
I don't know alot about basketball, but it seems as if CJ's early struggles were a catalyst to some of these poor starts. If CJ can't hit open shots, it clogs stuff up for BI and Zion. And Herb isn't reliable from the outside to counter when CJ has a bad start. Trey is starting to look human (we knew this was coming) and the other 2nd-liners are playing from behind when this happens. If the starters can get it going an get a lead, the 2nd-liners will extend it against most teams. I think they'll be ok.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
1908 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:46 am to
If you had asked me before the season if I’d be ok with 5-4 I’d have said yes, but the losses to LA and the Hawks sting a bit, so I’d say in-between. First two months were always going to be an evaluation period setting up potential moves at the trade deadline for a playoff run.

Slightly disappointed that we have not been dominant, other than the Nets opener, in order to get more run for Daniels. Hayes, to this point has not stepped up in the role the team is clearly lacking (rim runner/protector), and the Pels have somewhat reverted back to CJ, BI, and Zion taking turns running the offense.

Hopeful that the team is learning to play with one another and starts building a more cohesive unit. The opportunity for a contention is now.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116512 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:51 am to
Yeah I really haven't mentioned CJ, but he has probably been the most disappointing of anyone.
Posted by Dinky Mulberry
Member since Aug 2021
1861 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:53 am to
Looks like Zion will be a GTD for tonight's game with Pacers.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116512 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 9:58 am to
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Looks like Zion will be a GTD for tonight's game with Pacers.

This freaking dude
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:12 am to
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Hopeful that the team is learning to play with one another and starts building a more cohesive unit.

I did not expect it.

some other teams already are a cohesive unit.

that's why preseason guesses of 50 or 60 wins seemed unrealistic expectations.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39068 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:16 am to
i'm pissed we lost to the lakers and hawks. those were two VERY winnable games (for different reasons). the jazz are good, they beat the pels straight up. same as the suns
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71902 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:28 am to
Defense and sloppy passing has been concerning, both of those should be correctable though.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61623 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:30 am to
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Yeah I really haven't mentioned CJ, but he has probably been the most disappointing of anyone.


Kevin O'Connor has a new article out on the Pels that probably deserves it's own thread, but in it he mentions CJ has an injured finger on his shooting hand. Had we heard that? I don't remember any reports on it, but that would explain the poor shooting so far.

quote:

he’s averaging more points and almost twice as many assists as he did in Portland—and that’s despite him nursing a middle finger injury on his shooting hand that has limited his play.

LINK
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71902 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:33 am to
Yeah, I'm not worried about CJ at all. He still has the handles and has had spurts where he has single-handedly put the team on his back. The shots will fall more consistently.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
10499 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:34 am to
Yea, he was on the injury report for it and Ive seen his finger taped in one of his post game presser. He also had a cup of ice when he would dip.his finger into it.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35614 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:35 am to
Going into the season I thought 5-4 through nine would be okay/decent. 6-3 would have been pretty good.

Losing the LA game hurts but I wouldn't say I'm disappointed.


For some perspective, 5-4 through nine is one of the best starts in hornicans history.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:40 am to
quote:

but in it he mentions CJ has an injured finger on his shooting hand.
This makes so much sense, and speaks to why I was never worried about him. As I've said, he doesn't remotely look like he's lost a step. He gets to all his spots, everything about his game this season looks solid...except the shot falling.

So this makes complete sense based on what we've seen.
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Kevin O'Connor has a new article out on the Pels that probably deserves it's own thread, but in it he mentions CJ has an injured finger on his shooting hand. Had we heard that? I don't remember any reports on it, but that would explain the poor shooting so far.


I was wondering when this would drop, thanks.

Probably does deserve a thread.

KOC mentioned on his podcast he spent some extensive time in New Orleans watching and basically talking to everyone in the organization. You could also tell he's been watching us cause his complaints on the podcast literally sounded like he grabbed them from this board. Wondering why Jose is not getting more run, questioning if it is the players or Willie for why in multiple games our guys seemed to be unaware of the late game situation like trey guarding the paint when they needed a 3.

Overall he seemed optimistic and liked us, but curious to read his write up, thanks
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111234 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 10:48 am to
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Looks like Zion will be a GTD for tonight's game with Pacers.

Is this legit or a joke I whiffed on?

I don't see it anywhere.
Posted by England_Pelican
England
Member since Apr 2018
3803 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:14 am to
Generally satisfied but towards more unsatisfied than satisfied.

I guess all things considered we’re doing ok… but those 3 overtime losses.. 2 of them where we’re up with seconds left are hard to swallow…the disappointment comes from not being able to finish those games off in the clutch

7-2 would have me jumping up and down and wouldn’t be an unfair reflection….
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by Bonkers119
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2015
10243 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:16 am to
I'm optimistic. This team is deep, and our bench has shown they can win games if they need to. We just have to stop shooting ourselves in the foot. I think we can still be a top 4 team in the west if we play to our potential.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34642 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 11:19 am to
I figured we'd start the season out slow just because I thought it might take a while for the chemistry to click. But that didn't seem to be an issue right at the start.

We're about where I expected us to be but just for different reason so I'm not complaining. Only thing I'm disappointed in is the approach the training staff is clearly going to keep taking this year. They single handedly lost us the Lakers game. Babying the players is costing us more than it is helping.
Posted by Gabe Rippen
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2016
562 posts
Posted on 11/7/22 at 12:42 pm to
I’m somewhere in between. we have 1 loss in regulation which is the same as the Suns, Cavs, and Celtics. Bucks are the only team with less regulation losses

being in every game matters, and being in a lot of close games early in the season is better than being in a lot of close games late. this team will need to learn how to battle through and get wins and i think we’re well positioned to do that
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