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re: Vaccine Narrative Collapses as Harvard Study Shows Jab More Dangerous than COVID

Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:45 am to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:45 am to
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It seems that the booster would cause a substantial risk of more Serious Adverse Events compared to estimated Covid-19 hospitalizations averted from the vax/booster.


Unpossible.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:45 am to
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taking a shot in the dark because im not clicking... does the website have a tagline at the top that says something like "#1 news source for PATRIOTS who are TIRED of FAKE NEWS"


When googling it, the tagline is "The only place for real and honest news in the state of Florida."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:45 am to
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You've already read all 50 pages of the study?!?! Yeah, sure.

I've read about 25 so far.

And why did you respond with this when I asked you to cite where the study argues your OP
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:46 am to
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Shows Jab More
quote:

Jab


Posted by conservativewifeymom
Mid Atlantic
Member since Oct 2012
12049 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:46 am to
The very fact that you've taken leave of your thinking abilities is proof something's wrong.
Posted by reggierayreb
Germantown
Member since Nov 2012
17002 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:46 am to
Ortho doctors advising patients getting Boots put on to take baby aspirin to help avoid clotting.

Yep. That’s happening all over.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425607 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:46 am to
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Unpossible.

Only the most hardcore vax zealots thought 18-29 year olds were the population cohort at serious risk of CV19 complications
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
6628 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:47 am to
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Mostly peaceful Vaccine


From a mostly truthful CDC.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55404 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:47 am to
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Only the most hardcore vax zealots thought 18-29 year olds were the population cohort at serious risk of CV19 complications

Unfortunately, those were the people directly influencing and making policy.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4095 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:47 am to
You mudbloods were warned and yet you all drilled down harder on the tyranny and stupidity.
Posted by SelaTiger
Member since Aug 2016
18320 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:47 am to
It’s only more dangerous if you don’t get enough of the vaccine. I get one monthly so that I’m sure it stays effective.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:48 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:48 am to
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Unfortunately, those were the people directly influencing and making policy.



Fauci is literally more than 4x the lower age of that cohort

Most governmental policy is made by boomers or old Gen X
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69327 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:49 am to
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1) no formal risk-benefit assessment exists for this age group; 2) vaccine mandates may result in a net expected harm to individual young people; 3) mandates are not proportionate: expected harms are not outweighed by public health benefits given the modest and transient effectiveness of vaccines against transmission; 4) US mandates violate the reciprocity principle because rare serious vaccine-related harms will not be reliably compensated due to gaps in current vaccine injury schemes; and 5) mandates create wider social harms.
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9623 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:51 am to
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Really?!?! You read all 50 pages of the study by Harvard and Johns Hopkins in, what, 5 minutes?!?! AND had time to adequately analyze it and draw conclusions that counter the conclusions of hundreds of experts? Sure....



Actually, I work as a scientific researcher and can rather quickly glean several key facts.

First, it's self-published.

Second, it hasn't gone through peer review.

Third, it doesn't have a scientific methodology. It's an argumentative essay that inductively tries to draw an argument through a tenuous, cherry-picked selection of existing data. It has all the argumentative strength of a first-year college essay. (This is ethically questionable for an article purporting to be science-driven.)

Fourth, the argumentative nature of the essay is likely influenced by the "Wellcome Foundation," which paid these researchers to self-publish the paper. (This is also ethically questionable.)

So, yes, I do this for a living, and articles like these are a dime a dozen, ranting on all sorts of topics. When I see one of these articles, I make a mental note to question the authors' veracity in the future because I know they can be easily bought off.
This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:57 am
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38884 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:52 am to
Preprints are becoming accepted in the scientific world as it gets the study out in the academic community sooner than when waiting for peer review. But preprints also are open to crackpot studies such as the one the OP posted.
Posted by Wabbit7
Member since Aug 2018
1174 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:52 am to
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The very fact that you've taken leave of your thinking abilities is proof something's wrong.





How's that? I am told that the boosters help improve my cognitive abilities!
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55404 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:52 am to
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Fauci is literally more than 4x the lower age of that cohort

Most governmental policy is made by boomers or old Gen X

Fauchi isn't solely responsible for that shite. It took a village.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425607 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:53 am to
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Fauchi isn't solely responsible for that shite. It took a village.



quote:

Most governmental policy is made by boomers or old Gen X
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18233 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:56 am to
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How much of the study have you read?

More than she understands
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55404 posts
Posted on 9/15/22 at 11:56 am to
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But preprints also are open to crackpot studies such as the one the OP posted.

I told you Harvard wouldn't count anymore. In fact, I guess all the institutions involved in this study aren't valid anymore.

This post was edited on 9/15/22 at 11:57 am
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