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EV charging data for TD so you can see the massive tidal wave headed for California
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:39 am
Tesla has been installing their rapid EV chargers for owners all throughout the EBR area. One site was monitored for actual load data.
When six of the Tesla rapid EV chargers were in use simultaneously, the real time power usage was 452KVA. A typical Louisiana neighborhood has a 50KVA transformer for every 4 homes or so. So, when you have six Tesla chargers operating simultaneously, that is the equivalent of nearly 40 homes operating at maximum load.
All of your commercial chargers will be Level 2 or Level 3 because no one has time to sit around for 6-8 hours to charge an EV on a Level 1 charger; except at home during the night.
California forcing everyone to EVs, when they already have a massive demand deficit during the summer, will be fun to watch. It's difficult to build new generation facilities in California due to their regulations so they will be crying for surrounding states for the increase in demand. I think their lone Nuclear Plant, Diablo Canyon, is slowly being shutdown for good.
When six of the Tesla rapid EV chargers were in use simultaneously, the real time power usage was 452KVA. A typical Louisiana neighborhood has a 50KVA transformer for every 4 homes or so. So, when you have six Tesla chargers operating simultaneously, that is the equivalent of nearly 40 homes operating at maximum load.
All of your commercial chargers will be Level 2 or Level 3 because no one has time to sit around for 6-8 hours to charge an EV on a Level 1 charger; except at home during the night.
California forcing everyone to EVs, when they already have a massive demand deficit during the summer, will be fun to watch. It's difficult to build new generation facilities in California due to their regulations so they will be crying for surrounding states for the increase in demand. I think their lone Nuclear Plant, Diablo Canyon, is slowly being shutdown for good.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 9:42 am
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:44 am to LSUAlum2001
California is going to look like Cuba in 20 years.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:45 am to LSUAlum2001
Everyone keeps focusing on the lack of generation capacity required to support widespread EV adoption; however, the need to upgrade the transmission infrastructure is going to cost more and take longer.
Retrofitting the standard apartment complex so every unit has a level 2 charger is going to require a major investment. Who actually pays for the equipment to do so? The landlord?
Retrofitting the standard apartment complex so every unit has a level 2 charger is going to require a major investment. Who actually pays for the equipment to do so? The landlord?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:48 am to Chromdome35
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however, the need to upgrade the transmission infrastructure is going to cost more and take longer.
Not just transmission, either. The substation transformers and distribution lines will all require upgrades.
Standard delivery time on a substation power transformer is 36+ months; when everyone needs them, 5+ years.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:57 am to LSUAlum2001
I would like to see the actual cost of charging an EV versus a same size car with an ICE on a monthly basis.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 9:59 am to LSUAlum2001
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When six of the Tesla rapid EV chargers were in use simultaneously, the real time power usage was 452KVA. A typical Louisiana neighborhood has a 50KVA transformer for every 4 homes or so. So, when you have six Tesla chargers operating simultaneously, that is the equivalent of nearly 40 homes operating at maximum load.
Sounds FUBAR from day 1. What a catastrophe that will be
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:01 am to Ten Bears
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I would like to see the actual cost of charging an EV versus a same size car with an ICE on a monthly basis.
It's actually pretty good in comparison. Today. When demand skyrockets that cost will go up as well.
However, if you own the vehicle long enough, replacing the batteries will be extremely expensive, and that cost would offset every penny you saved over having to purchase gas.
..and if there is ever an incident where power is out for an extended period of time, you're fricked with an EV; a massive earthquake in Cali or another big hurricane in the Gulf Region.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:13 am to LSUAlum2001
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However, if you own the vehicle long enough, replacing the batteries will be extremely expensive
What is the life span for the batteries? And, wouldn't this make resale or buying a used EV precarious?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:14 am to LSUAlum2001
At that point CA will demand everyone have a certain kW solar panal requirements on their house.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:14 am to LSUAlum2001
What's hilarious is that even if we expand domestic capacity for fossil fuels our infrastructure is really setup to export it not keep it here. Escpecially in California.
There's nothing they can do LOL - EIA
There's nothing they can do LOL - EIA
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:24 am to LSUAlum2001
Unintended consequences are a built in feature of the liberal system...this will just create a self perpetuating problem that the government will need to address. Because no one in their right mind could see this problem and double down anyway, right?
Michael Savage's book title is correct.
Michael Savage's book title is correct.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:24 am to Lawyered
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When six of the Tesla rapid EV chargers were in use simultaneously, the real time power usage was 452KVA. A typical Louisiana neighborhood has a 50KVA transformer for every 4 homes or so. So, when you have six Tesla chargers operating simultaneously, that is the equivalent of nearly 40 homes operating at maximum load.
Sounds FUBAR from day 1. What a catastrophe that will be
This is a bad comparison. Tesla chargers are Superchargers that charge at 300KW. You can't compare that to level 1 home chargers that will only ever charge at 50KW/40A. No one is going to be installing Level 2/3 chargers at home. The real issue is 2-3 car households and them wanting everyone to switch over. You aren't charging 3 EV's off your home electricity not without having serious issues. Not only that but your usage charging 3 EV's everyday will be huge.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:25 am to LSUAlum2001
Korkstand will be here any minute now to tell you you're wrong and that California's grid can handle 10 X's the number of EV's it presently has! 
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:30 am to UAinSOUTHAL
Aren't all the Tesla home chargers considered level 2 chargers???
Plugging into a 120v outlet = level 1 charging which gets you 3-5 miles of range per hour of charge. So in a typical overnight charge scenario of 10pm to 6am (8 hours) you could get 40 miles of range by using a standard power outlet.
Plugging into a 120v outlet = level 1 charging which gets you 3-5 miles of range per hour of charge. So in a typical overnight charge scenario of 10pm to 6am (8 hours) you could get 40 miles of range by using a standard power outlet.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:34 am to Chromdome35
quote:I need to invest in an EMT supplier. It's all going to have to go in conduit.
Retrofitting the standard apartment complex so every unit has a level 2 charger is going to require a major investment. Who actually pays for the equipment to do so? The landlord?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:35 am to deathvalleytiger10
quote:It does. And no one factors in the environmental cost of making disposable cars.
And, wouldn't this make resale or buying a used EV precarious?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:36 am to UAinSOUTHAL
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This is a bad comparison. Tesla chargers are Superchargers that charge at 300KW. You can't compare that to level 1 home chargers that will only ever charge at 50KW/40A. No one is going to be installing Level 2/3 chargers at home. The real issue is 2-3 car households and them wanting everyone to switch over. You aren't charging 3 EV's off your home electricity not without having serious issues. Not only that but your usage charging 3 EV's everyday will be huge.
I have a 3 year period coming up where I will have a 4 car household. I sure as shite won't be rationing out charges out in the garage. They can get fricked.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:39 am to LSUAlum2001
I bet there are a bunch of new dealerships being built on the Nevada and Arizona borders.
California out lawing ICEs is meaningless unless they are going to say they can’t be driven in the state at all.
California out lawing ICEs is meaningless unless they are going to say they can’t be driven in the state at all.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 10:40 am to jawnybnsc
Most of them would prefer living like Cuba
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