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re: EV charging data for TD so you can see the massive tidal wave headed for California
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:30 am to LSUAlum2001
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:30 am to LSUAlum2001
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LSUAlum2001
Every number in your OP related to level 1 and level 2 chargers and charging times in your OP is factually incorrect, surprisingly in a direction you may not be expecting. Makes me question everything else you posted. Know how I know? We have two EVs at home including a Tesla and had to upgrade our home electric panel to 200A (as our previous one was already at the limit) to install a Chargepoint level 2 charger in our garage.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:32 am to LSUAlum2001
They never think of how the energy used in refining gasoline gets sent to residential areas when they are talking about phasing out gas.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:34 am to dgnx6
quote:You don't need that many cars, you greedy capitalist pig.
At one point my house had 5 vehicles
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:36 am to jawnybnsc
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California is going to look like Cuba in 20 years.
If we don't get them out at midterms the USA will be like Peru in 2 years.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:36 am to frequent flyer
quote:That's all fine and great... until you need to go out of town to take care of some business.
Most people’s commutes are 50 miles or less. So that’s probably fine.
Even with 3 cars, most people would easily get away with charging each car once a week
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am to frequent flyer
quote:The problem is the same people that can't understand you're supposed to pay a loan back... are the same ones telling you an EV is "cheaper". Net present value is something they aren't capable of understanding.
That undermines a huge selling point for an EV - which is no oil or fluid changes. You are trading that for massive battery replacement costs and headaches.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am to saintforlife1
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Every number in your OP related to level 1 and level 2 chargers and charging times in your OP is factually incorrect,
What are the correct numbers?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:55 am to LSUAlum2001
Are people seriously still trying to justify the value of EV? Comical.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:00 pm to frequent flyer
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Most people’s commutes are 50 miles or less. So that’s probably fine.
Even with 3 cars, most people would easily get away with charging each car once a week. So a single level 2 installed would do the trick for a household with 3 cars assuming we can get all brands of cars onto the same charger and alternate (which I don’t think you can do right now if you want to take full advantage of the fast chargers).
Then just have a 120v adapter to top off a car if needed or for visitors.
Very few people drive 200+ miles per day regularly. Those that do are already paying out the nose for gas or diesel. If they went full electric, that’s the type of driver that should consider supplemental power systems like a home solar array.
Between work and kid's activities all over the place my wife and I can easily put 30-50 miles per day. Then there are 3 months a year I commute to Baton Rouge daily. My kids are all over the place on weekends. We routinely take family trips along the Gulf Coast. I don't need to set up a fricking charge routine because the POS government feels like lining it's pockets with alternative energy. The word "alternative" needs to be highlighted here. It should be a choice. Not a fricking mandate.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:05 pm to tiggerthetooth
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They don't want everyone to have an EV or own a home. They want you to he systemically forced into tiny box apartments and public transportation.
"You will own nothing, and you will be happy"
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:06 pm to TigerSprings
So last 4 years... New Ca homes must have solar
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:12 pm to LSUAlum2001
I would imagine that a new breed of car "ownership" develops ( presuming that this EV date actually occurs) where people buy rights to " transportation" ... Like netjets and have equity in an out of state llc that owns transportation and for that they get an ICE vehicle... But it's not " sold"
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:18 pm to MightyYat
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Level 1 chargers are only going to give you 50-ish mile charge overnight. You'll have to leave it on the charger for 3 days to get it full.
If you jump up to Level 2 you can fully charge in 12 hours but you're significantly increasing your electrical load.
Yeah but you wouldn't need to do that every night for every car. 300+ miles worth of charge a day? That's a lot of driving.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:20 pm to MightyYat
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Level 1 chargers are only going to give you 50-ish mile charge overnight.
And when people in California get caught in traffic (like CA is famous for) sitting there with the AC running it will draw down the battery.
You could have 40 miles on charging but only make it 15 miles due to sitting in traffic.
That isnt mentioned when they talk about EV.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:21 pm to goofball
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Yeah but you wouldn't need to do that every night for every car. 300+ miles worth of charge a day? That's a lot of driving.
This is what I said to the other response like this. It doesn't matter really.
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Between work and kid's activities all over the place my wife and I can easily put 30-50 miles per day. Then there are 3 months a year I commute to Baton Rouge daily. My kids are all over the place on weekends. We routinely take family trips along the Gulf Coast. I don't need to set up a fricking charge routine because the POS government feels like lining it's pockets with alternative energy. The word "alternative" needs to be highlighted here. It should be a choice. Not a fricking mandate.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:23 pm to LSUAlum2001
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Tesla has been installing their rapid EV chargers for owners all throughout the EBR area.
Huh?
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:27 pm to goofball
If I lived in CA and had an EV, I would charge it to 100% every night because you don't ever know what the next day is going to hold. Will there be brownouts? Will there be restrictions on charging tomorrow? Am I going to have an unplanned trip that will require more than the 50 miles of charge I got from my level 1 last night?
We were out in CA last summer to visit the grandkids in Temecula. We decided to go to the Six Flags water park that is east of LA. My daughter had to go find a level 3 charger and take 30 mins to put enough juice in her Tesla to get it up there...then she had to take another 30 minutes to charge to leave to go home...but she had to wait about an hour to charge that 30 minutes because of the line at the charging stations. So it ultimately took 2 additional hours out of her day to charge her car...we just got in our ICE vehicle and drove there and drove back without ever needing to stop.
We were out in CA last summer to visit the grandkids in Temecula. We decided to go to the Six Flags water park that is east of LA. My daughter had to go find a level 3 charger and take 30 mins to put enough juice in her Tesla to get it up there...then she had to take another 30 minutes to charge to leave to go home...but she had to wait about an hour to charge that 30 minutes because of the line at the charging stations. So it ultimately took 2 additional hours out of her day to charge her car...we just got in our ICE vehicle and drove there and drove back without ever needing to stop.
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:29 pm to Ten Bears
quote:Was paying $80-100 a month, moved to an EV 3.5 years ago, now paying $20-25 a month.
I would like to see the actual cost of charging an EV versus a same size car with an ICE on a monthly basis.
I imagine that $80-100 would be considerably higher if I still used the gas vehicle that much nowadays.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:30 pm to LSUAlum2001
Elections have consequences!! They voted for this!!
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