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re: EV charging data for TD so you can see the massive tidal wave headed for California

Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:30 am to
Posted by saintforlife1
Member since Jul 2012
1321 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:30 am to
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LSUAlum2001

Every number in your OP related to level 1 and level 2 chargers and charging times in your OP is factually incorrect, surprisingly in a direction you may not be expecting. Makes me question everything else you posted. Know how I know? We have two EVs at home including a Tesla and had to upgrade our home electric panel to 200A (as our previous one was already at the limit) to install a Chargepoint level 2 charger in our garage.
Posted by whiskey over ice
Member since Sep 2020
3263 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:31 am to
Entergy finna eat
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4854 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:32 am to
They never think of how the energy used in refining gasoline gets sent to residential areas when they are talking about phasing out gas.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57266 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:34 am to
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At one point my house had 5 vehicles
You don't need that many cars, you greedy capitalist pig.
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11127 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:36 am to
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California is going to look like Cuba in 20 years.


If we don't get them out at midterms the USA will be like Peru in 2 years.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57266 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:36 am to
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Most people’s commutes are 50 miles or less. So that’s probably fine.

Even with 3 cars, most people would easily get away with charging each car once a week
That's all fine and great... until you need to go out of town to take care of some business.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57266 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am to
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That undermines a huge selling point for an EV - which is no oil or fluid changes. You are trading that for massive battery replacement costs and headaches.
The problem is the same people that can't understand you're supposed to pay a loan back... are the same ones telling you an EV is "cheaper". Net present value is something they aren't capable of understanding.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7596 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:38 am to
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Every number in your OP related to level 1 and level 2 chargers and charging times in your OP is factually incorrect,


What are the correct numbers?
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
6962 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 11:55 am to
Are people seriously still trying to justify the value of EV? Comical.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24428 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Most people’s commutes are 50 miles or less. So that’s probably fine.

Even with 3 cars, most people would easily get away with charging each car once a week. So a single level 2 installed would do the trick for a household with 3 cars assuming we can get all brands of cars onto the same charger and alternate (which I don’t think you can do right now if you want to take full advantage of the fast chargers).

Then just have a 120v adapter to top off a car if needed or for visitors.

Very few people drive 200+ miles per day regularly. Those that do are already paying out the nose for gas or diesel. If they went full electric, that’s the type of driver that should consider supplemental power systems like a home solar array.


Between work and kid's activities all over the place my wife and I can easily put 30-50 miles per day. Then there are 3 months a year I commute to Baton Rouge daily. My kids are all over the place on weekends. We routinely take family trips along the Gulf Coast. I don't need to set up a fricking charge routine because the POS government feels like lining it's pockets with alternative energy. The word "alternative" needs to be highlighted here. It should be a choice. Not a fricking mandate.
Posted by UTMaverick
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2021
555 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:05 pm to
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They don't want everyone to have an EV or own a home. They want you to he systemically forced into tiny box apartments and public transportation.



"You will own nothing, and you will be happy"
Posted by vegas-tiger
NV desert
Member since Dec 2003
2061 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:06 pm to
So last 4 years... New Ca homes must have solar
Posted by SuperOcean
Member since Jun 2022
3234 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:12 pm to
I would imagine that a new breed of car "ownership" develops ( presuming that this EV date actually occurs) where people buy rights to " transportation" ... Like netjets and have equity in an out of state llc that owns transportation and for that they get an ICE vehicle... But it's not " sold"
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16867 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:18 pm to
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Level 1 chargers are only going to give you 50-ish mile charge overnight. You'll have to leave it on the charger for 3 days to get it full.

If you jump up to Level 2 you can fully charge in 12 hours but you're significantly increasing your electrical load.


Yeah but you wouldn't need to do that every night for every car. 300+ miles worth of charge a day? That's a lot of driving.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa
Member since Aug 2012
13562 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:20 pm to
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Level 1 chargers are only going to give you 50-ish mile charge overnight.


And when people in California get caught in traffic (like CA is famous for) sitting there with the AC running it will draw down the battery.

You could have 40 miles on charging but only make it 15 miles due to sitting in traffic.

That isnt mentioned when they talk about EV.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24428 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:21 pm to
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Yeah but you wouldn't need to do that every night for every car. 300+ miles worth of charge a day? That's a lot of driving.



This is what I said to the other response like this. It doesn't matter really.


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Between work and kid's activities all over the place my wife and I can easily put 30-50 miles per day. Then there are 3 months a year I commute to Baton Rouge daily. My kids are all over the place on weekends. We routinely take family trips along the Gulf Coast. I don't need to set up a fricking charge routine because the POS government feels like lining it's pockets with alternative energy. The word "alternative" needs to be highlighted here. It should be a choice. Not a fricking mandate.
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:23 pm to
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Tesla has been installing their rapid EV chargers for owners all throughout the EBR area.


Huh?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6844 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:27 pm to
If I lived in CA and had an EV, I would charge it to 100% every night because you don't ever know what the next day is going to hold. Will there be brownouts? Will there be restrictions on charging tomorrow? Am I going to have an unplanned trip that will require more than the 50 miles of charge I got from my level 1 last night?

We were out in CA last summer to visit the grandkids in Temecula. We decided to go to the Six Flags water park that is east of LA. My daughter had to go find a level 3 charger and take 30 mins to put enough juice in her Tesla to get it up there...then she had to take another 30 minutes to charge to leave to go home...but she had to wait about an hour to charge that 30 minutes because of the line at the charging stations. So it ultimately took 2 additional hours out of her day to charge her car...we just got in our ICE vehicle and drove there and drove back without ever needing to stop.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110879 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:29 pm to
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I would like to see the actual cost of charging an EV versus a same size car with an ICE on a monthly basis.

Was paying $80-100 a month, moved to an EV 3.5 years ago, now paying $20-25 a month.

I imagine that $80-100 would be considerably higher if I still used the gas vehicle that much nowadays.
This post was edited on 9/1/22 at 12:30 pm
Posted by shoelessjoe
Member since Jul 2006
9912 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 12:30 pm to
Elections have consequences!! They voted for this!!
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