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re: House of the Dragon S1E1--Official Thread; "The Reign of House Targaryen Begins"
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:54 am to LuckySo-n-So
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:54 am to LuckySo-n-So
Solid first episode. Felt like good GOT.
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Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:57 am to Madking
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Very meh start. You’d think they’d at least kick it off with something interesting instead of “rich girls are oppressed but not really and child birth is murder” but I guess not
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Madking
What did you want them to do? Set everyone on fire?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:58 am to iwyLSUiwy
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Political intrigue, a good tournament with killing in it, cutting body parts off, sex scene, an orgy, a woman brutally dying giving birth, multiple dragons. I mean what the hell does it take for something to not be boring
I'm not saying it was perfect, but boring? Nah.
Very boring characters. Great characters is what made GoT awesome. None of the characters in the first episode were very interesting at all.
I couldn't care less about gratuitous sex and violence. That shite is boring to me.
What is it with people getting upset about people not loving the first episode? Its just a TV show for Christ's sake. I'm actually pretty shocked that so many on here liked it so much.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 9:16 am
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:00 am to prplhze2000
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Lighting. I HATE the damn lighting. Just like that Battle of Winterfell crap. Cut out the darkness.
100% This. I felt like I couldn't see half of the episode. I was watching on HBO Max 4k, with all the lights in my house turned off so no glare, on a 70" TV, brightness turned up. I was squinting at some of those scenes. I get the realism element in the fact that they did not have electricity so it was naturally darker, but this is a TV show FFS.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:01 am to JumpingTheShark
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This was a change from the books. Fire and Blood doesn’t mention any premonitions by Aegon about the Long Night and the dagger doesn’t make an appearance either. Not sure how I feel about the change.
George Martin said Fire and Blood was supposed to be a historical account written by the maesters. If the song of ice and fire was a secret passed down between ruler and heir, it makes sense it wouldn’t be in that account
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:03 am to JDPndahizzy
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It has some pretty big implications. What if the Mad King telling Jaime to “burn them all” was about the prophecy?
Oh wow... Maybe so?
Are we supposed to take everything from GOT as canon in this universe? The other poster's comment on the baratheon sigil with the crown makes me wonder if this is supposed to stand alone as it's own show.
Overall I was impressed and will keep watching but I'm not expecting it to be as good as GOT and that's okay. When Daemon took out the horse's legs while jousting, was that a legal move?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:06 am to Madking
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Very meh start. You’d think they’d at least kick it off with something interesting instead of “rich girls are oppressed but not really and child birth is murder” but I guess not.
I’m not sure what you were expecting. You’re not going to have a “Red Wedding “ first episode. They did a good job establishing the characters and the word they live in.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:06 am to OldNo.7
quote:a long time after the actual events, and sometimes unreliable as an historical accounting. Also I wouldn’t read too much into that conversation...watch the “inside the episode” thing that aired after the show, the writers said it was just a cool way to tie the two shows together. I don’t think they intended for there to be more to it than that
George Martin said Fire and Blood was supposed to be a historical account written by the maesters.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:07 am to Yeti_Chaser
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e as good as GOT and that's okay. When Daemon took out the horse's legs while jousting, was that a legal move?
I kept waiting on people to act outraged. I would have assumed that wasn’t allowed.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:08 am to EyeOfTheTiger311
HDR or no?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:12 am to Greace
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HDR or no?
Watched it on HBO app on Vizio smart TV.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:18 am to Greace
quote:Dolby Vision for me via the app, but still intentionally dark in some places
HDR or no?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:19 am to GEAUX5
quote:Plus the other 9 comments/nods in the episode lol. Honestly can't believe people could have missed it, shocked at all of the comments suggesting they didn't know until this thread.
The baby dying was an easy catch.. first, the Grandmaester had a very concerned look on his face when holding the baby as if it stopped breathing (the baby wasn’t whining anymore)
Second, the funeral had 2 bodies. Aemma and a small body.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:27 am to KingofthePoint
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I kept waiting on people to act outraged. I would have assumed that wasn’t allowed
At that point he was still the heir to the Iron Throne. What were they gonna do about it?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:38 am to KingofthePoint
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I kept waiting on people to act outraged. I would have assumed that wasn’t allowed.
So in the real world, which is, of course, not the same as the GoT world, there were no unified jousting rules. They varied widely, from scoring points with blunt lances to full-on potentially deadly jousting. By and large I would assume hitting the horse to be bad sportsmanship, but it all depended on the time and place.
Here in the GoT world, the tournament seems more akin to a lethal gladiatorial combat, in which the combatants could escalate the fight however they wanted. And as established in GoT, there doesn’t appear to be much of a tradition of sportsmanship at all. So I guess it’s Thunderdome. Horses are fair game, too.
I was more surprised by the various houses just risking the lives of their valuable male heirs and family members in a tournament like that. Screw that.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:39 am to WaltTeevens
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Anyway, I enjoyed it. I didn't watch GoT as it was airing so I'm looking forward to being able to chat about these each week.
I didn’t start GoT until Covid started and I binged the whole show in a couple months. theres some story arcs I hardly recall viewing it that way but now I’m upset I have to wait a whole week to watch another episode.
At least I’ll retain the show better this way such as the death of the infant in this first episode that some people clearly missed. I know I had moments like that during my GoT watch
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:43 am to LuckySo-n-So
I cant believe they actually went back to their roots
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:43 am to JumpingTheShark
This was a change from the books. Fire and Blood doesn’t mention any premonitions by Aegon about the Long Night and the dagger doesn’t make an appearance either. Not sure how I feel about the change.
So the dagger the king has is the same one Arya used to kill the night king?
So the dagger the king has is the same one Arya used to kill the night king?
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:43 am to tigahfromtheham
Pretty sure that's not a legal jousting move but he is a Targ so nobody was going to say anything.
The show was good but it didn't suck me in. To be fair, it took about 3-4 episodes of GoT before I was sucked in, so I'll watch and give it a chance.
One thing that will definitely hurt this show is that it's a prequel. Example, the secret of the Song of Ice & Fire passed down to the heirs. Sounds cool until you realize it's all BS. That the Prince That Was Promised gets upstaged by his little sister and the Night King's army gets wiped out in about a minute at the end of the first battle. R+L=J ends up meaning absolutely nothing.
Prequels suffer from the audience knowing the ending.
The show was good but it didn't suck me in. To be fair, it took about 3-4 episodes of GoT before I was sucked in, so I'll watch and give it a chance.
One thing that will definitely hurt this show is that it's a prequel. Example, the secret of the Song of Ice & Fire passed down to the heirs. Sounds cool until you realize it's all BS. That the Prince That Was Promised gets upstaged by his little sister and the Night King's army gets wiped out in about a minute at the end of the first battle. R+L=J ends up meaning absolutely nothing.
Prequels suffer from the audience knowing the ending.
Posted on 8/22/22 at 9:48 am to SpqrTiger
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I was more surprised by the various houses just risking the lives of their valuable male heirs and family members in a tournament like that. Screw that.
I thought something similar.
Do you know what seems to be the quickest way to divide a realm? Have all the families kill each other’s sons for sport. Even if their own son consented to the fight, I feel like all they did was create a million vendettas.
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Example, the secret of the Song of Ice & Fire passed down to the heirs. Sounds cool until you realize it's all BS. That the Prince That Was Promised gets upstaged by his little sister and the Night King's army gets wiped out in about a minute at the end of the first battle. R+L=J ends up meaning absolutely nothing. Prequels suffer from the audience knowing the ending.
Indeed. I mentioned it earlier but hopefully the book series will be finished at some point and the official ending’s canon will be something more appealing.
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