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re: House of the Dragon S1E1--Official Thread; "The Reign of House Targaryen Begins"

Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:07 am to
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34237 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:07 am to
I think it was a very good first episode. They have the impossible task of being attached to GoT, no matter how you feel about it.

You have to give this team a chance. They had nothing to do with season 8 of GoT.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:18 am to
Honestly my only gripe was the black Targaryen. Black people in the books come from the summer isles so it would have made more sense to just have him be normal and married to a targ although they liked to keep things pure so that would have been a stretch in itself.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
33051 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:20 am to
This is a pointless gripe.
quote:

in the books
we are well beyond this being a legitimate complaint in this universe.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:34 am to
Is he not precisely
quote:

Normal and married to a Targ
??
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19870 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:36 am to
Episode one. I liked it.
Posted by Master Guilbeau
Member since Jan 2013
1195 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:41 am to
Sounds like more torture porn that george is really fond of.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
34237 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:43 am to
quote:

Honestly my only gripe was the black Targaryen.


That dudes badass
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:50 am to
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That dudes badass


He may very well be but casting a black man to be a Targaryen makes zero sense and feels like a forced woke agenda
Posted by Scuttle Buttin
Member since May 2020
469 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:50 am to
It really did have the feel of the first few seasons. At first the wife was still jaded going in, but as soon as it ended she asked of we have to wait a week for the next one.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42479 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:53 am to
quote:

He may very well be but casting a black man to be a Targaryen makes zero sense and feels like a forced woke agenda



It is a fantasy TV show. Why are you looking for something to be offended by? I don't understand this mindset where people can't let themselves enjoy anything.
Posted by TexasTiger1185
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2011
13168 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:57 am to
The only black guy is the only thing you don’t like. It’s not that big of a deal, man.
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 7:57 am to
I’ll ask again,
Is he not a Velaryon married to a Targ?
Posted by Contender54
the Enn Oh
Member since Jan 2009
1124 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:00 am to
I don’t think the black guy is a Targaryen.
Isn’t he the Admiral/ Lord of the Tides/ Sea Snake?
If so, he’s a Velaryion.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108058 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:01 am to
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Very meh start. You’d think they’d at least kick it off with something interesting instead of “rich girls are oppressed but not really and child birth is murder” but I guess not.


As has been mentioned about a gazillion times, GRRM took heavy influence from actual history like the War of the Roses, the reign of the Tudors, etc.

Succession is the most important part of sustaining a dynasty. And yes, men were preferred for a very long time until succession laws were changed so it mirrors that.

The succession in the wake of the death of Edward (Henry VIII’s son) is a perfect example of how messy that shite can get.

ETA: And yes, child birth was often death for the mother before modern medicine.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 8:03 am
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
27406 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:14 am to
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Pretty sure it always had the crown because the Baratheons are descended from House Durrandon who originally had a variation of the sigil:

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During the Conquest, Orys Baratheon, one of Aegon Targaryen's fiercest generals, and rumored to be his bastard brother, slew Argilac the Arrogant, last of the Storm Kings, and married his daughter, Argella.[1] Orys adopted the sigil and words of his wife's ancestral line, so creating House Baratheon of Storm's End, with his descendants having the blood of the Durrandons flowing in their veins.[4]

This was the Durrandon sigil:


Reddit noted that a line from the show would've incorrectly planted the idea in my head:

quote:

The idea of the crowned stag becoming crowned after Robert's Rebellion was made up by the show. In S1, when Bran is having a lesson with Maester Luwin, he's describing different sigils and says House Baratheon is "a stag. A crowned stag now that Robert's King."


This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37855 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:14 am to
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makes zero sense


The Corlys character is supposed to be a badass key power player. This guy looks like a badass and supposedly he's one of the best actors in the show.

Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156646 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:16 am to
Sorry if this has been asked already, but general consensus of the first episode...good or bad?

I have it recorded and was just curious if it's decent and trying to avoid thread spoilers.

And I am prepared to be hurt by HBO again.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 8:22 am
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13209 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:16 am to
I really liked the first episode. Created a foundation for what is to come. A lot of houses were included in the first episode. In the council meetings you could already see the GoT at work. Positioning and plotting already going on in the first episode.

The Hightowers are a very rich family and they will be like the Lanisters and side with who they think will win. So no loyalty on their part.

The King's sister and her husband will be interesting to see which side they land on in the war to come.

Let's not forget the mention of Craghas Crabfeeder who is killing off pirates but at some point will probably end up being opportunistic like the Greyjoys while the rest of the world is at war.

Looking forward to the series.
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 8:20 am
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
42478 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:19 am to
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Honestly my only gripe was the black Targaryen


There it is.
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
25614 posts
Posted on 8/22/22 at 8:19 am to
quote:

Not real impressed with the princess, she seems a bit on the fugly side. Nothing awful, I just expected something hotter from this show.


Isnt she the one who everyone on the first page was bitching about being the non-binary actress? Looks like a woman to me, but agree I would’ve expected/hoped for a hotter princess in the likes of Dany. She’s definitely bucktoothed
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