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Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:40 pm to Vacherie Saint
If public discontent gets high enough, it may not even take that long.
This country survives based off the belief in an orderly transition of power and fair elections.
They go full Iranian mullah and bounce Trump from even running, shite’s on.
This country survives based off the belief in an orderly transition of power and fair elections.
They go full Iranian mullah and bounce Trump from even running, shite’s on.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:42 pm to jatilen
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The officials, who have direct knowledge of the FBI's deliberations and were granted anonymity in order to discuss sensitive matters, said the raid of Donald Trump's Florida residence was deliberately timed to occur when the former president was away. FBI decision-makers in Washington and Miami thought that denying the former president a photo opportunity or a platform from which to grandstand (or to attempt to thwart the raid) would lower the profile of the event, says one of the sources, a senior Justice Department official who is a 30-year veteran of the FBI.
This is how I know that slashing DOJ’s budget by 40% would do minimal harm re: law enforcement and be a huge win in the people’s struggle against permanent government. FBI higher ups, the best of the bureau, actually believed timing the raid for when Trump was in New York would kinda sorta let the whole thing fly under the radar.
That is an impressive level of retarded.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:42 pm to teke184
I think we are already there. No one believes, at this stage, that any of this is apolitical. They are tired of it.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:42 pm to jatilen
Not anything to do with Trump...
It does show you what red flag laws are going to look like when it comes to guns...
No court, no trial.. Just a say so and the fbi busts in.
It does show you what red flag laws are going to look like when it comes to guns...
No court, no trial.. Just a say so and the fbi busts in.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:43 pm to jatilen
The pervs allegedly went through Melania's wardrobe
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:45 pm to jatilen
This is all complete BS. If this was true, then the "raid" would have been quick and targeted to a specific location inside the premises. Instead, reports indicate that the government used the opportunity to search the entire premises and to make the search as disruptive and intrusive as possible. This is a post hoc rationalization put forward by the dems because the optics look horrible.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:48 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I can only say what I would have argued. I would have argued for the warrant to extend to the entire premises because people move things around.
if the informant said the docs would be in the safe, why did the judge allow them to search the entire house?
Maybe it sells, and maybe it doesn't, but I would have requested "entire premises" as an AUSA, because I would want to scope of my warrant to be as broad as possible.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:49 pm to Vacherie Saint
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They werent looking for documents they already knew about and have already seen...They needed an excuse to rifle through his personal shite so they could pin literally anything on him to stop him from running again.
They don't even bother to slather the lipstick on the pig anymore. Or gaslight us with plausible fairy tales.
"HEY -- WE'RE STOPPING HITLER JR FROM BEING RE-ELECTED. WE CAN'T JUST ALLOW "DEMOCRACY TO DIE IN DARKNESS" AGAIN!"
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:49 pm to jatilen
An anonymous source. Either fake or corrupt.
The entire Russia collusion hoax was built on countless anonymous sources that either didn't exist, or were politically corrupt assholes like steele, McCabe and Comey.
The entire Russia collusion hoax was built on countless anonymous sources that either didn't exist, or were politically corrupt assholes like steele, McCabe and Comey.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:50 pm to jatilen
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FBI confidential human source
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including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room
Is it possible that Trump is again playing 4D chess here? Could the "human source" unknowingly have been intentionally fed info. knowing he/she/they(
) would report to the FBI, thereby setting up the FBI to barge in only to find nothing? With this unprecedented intrusion, he then controls the narrative of conservatives being unfairly targeted by the FBI while Hillary, Hunter and Epstein listers get a free pass??Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:50 pm to jatilen
The FBI conducted a low key raid to avoid publicity and not make a spectacle.
They called up the Secret Service who was guarding the house, and told them about the search warrant and the raid. The SS had the property under control. There was no threat to anyone.
Yet the FBI pulled up with suits and agents loaded for bear eith automatic rifles. Why? Were they afraid of the SS?
As best I could tell two detectives from Law and Order, a couple of uniform guys and a few lawyers were all that was needed to search the man’s safe and then quickly get out if Dodge without creating a scene.
Why so much force? Why the drama?
They called up the Secret Service who was guarding the house, and told them about the search warrant and the raid. The SS had the property under control. There was no threat to anyone.
Yet the FBI pulled up with suits and agents loaded for bear eith automatic rifles. Why? Were they afraid of the SS?
As best I could tell two detectives from Law and Order, a couple of uniform guys and a few lawyers were all that was needed to search the man’s safe and then quickly get out if Dodge without creating a scene.
Why so much force? Why the drama?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:51 pm to AggieHank86
They weren't searching some single wide trailer or a 1,500 square foot house. This is a sprawling estate. The probable cause was allegedly based on information from an informant who should presumably have known where the documents at issue were located.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:52 pm to dgnx6
quote:You are very angry and very confident. You are also very ignorant and very wrong.
You sure do lie a shite load or are an ignorant fricker.
The claim is that the FBI showed-up with 30 agents in full tactical gear, with guns drawn. To refute that claim, you provide us photos of the Secret Service detachment assigned to the premises (who would have already been present) and the local police department (who were called to the premises later for crowd control).
quote:Yes. She was present to GUARD the premises, not to execute a warrant.
you can see the same ss agent is in two of the pics.
Score: F-
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:54 pm to AggieHank86
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This post was edited on 8/29/22 at 11:20 am
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:55 pm to AggieHank86
The government could clear this up by providing us with the video tape of the search, or by allowing the president's attorneys to supervise the search of the premises.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:55 pm to BBONDS25
quote:Barry, you don't want me to call YOU "disingenuous," do you? That argument is beneath you.
The report says the affidavit said the documents were in the safe. The safe was empty. The warrant was based upon a fraudulent affidavit.
You know as well as I do that something which is proven to be incorrect is not necessarily fraudulent.
If I last saw your car in your driveway, I do not commit "fraud" by saying so, just because you subsequently moved it into the garage without my knowledge.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:56 pm to jatilen
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an FBI confidential human source
It's gonna turn out to be Trump's alter-ego John Barron, isn't it
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:56 pm to KiwiHead
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Except when they show up, those docs are not in the safe. Was the warrant specific to the records room, Trumps office and wherever the safe is? If after they go in and the docs are not where they said they would be were they allowed by the warrant to ransacked the house?
I’m guessing they unilaterally decided to search the whole house for the docs that were supposed to be in the safe. They should have left.
Which make you wonder if that wasn’t their intent all along. Put some highly detailed info in front of a judge to get the signature - and they use that as a free pass - knowing there will be zero repercussions.
They are free to look for whatever crime they can find.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:57 pm to cardswinagain
here is where these guys hang themselves. The media can pretend all day long that this is on the up and up, but no one trusts the media anymore.
Just a little while back, Hillary Clinton was caught with classified material on an illegal secret server. She destroyed evidence under subpoena then hired her cronies as "attorneys" so they couldn't be compelled to testify against her. Prior to that, she famously directed an associate to steal classified intel from the national archives, a crime for which he plead guilty to.
The then-director of the FBI, with criminal evidence in hand, said: "...of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."
Now, here we are. And that same FBI is going to try and throw Trump in the bottom of a jail for "mishandling classified information", and they'll expect the people not to remember their hypocrisy. They'll expect the people to not see this as an authoritarian, third world, political vendetta. Its not going to work. They are going to start a war.
Just a little while back, Hillary Clinton was caught with classified material on an illegal secret server. She destroyed evidence under subpoena then hired her cronies as "attorneys" so they couldn't be compelled to testify against her. Prior to that, she famously directed an associate to steal classified intel from the national archives, a crime for which he plead guilty to.
The then-director of the FBI, with criminal evidence in hand, said: "...of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case."
Now, here we are. And that same FBI is going to try and throw Trump in the bottom of a jail for "mishandling classified information", and they'll expect the people not to remember their hypocrisy. They'll expect the people to not see this as an authoritarian, third world, political vendetta. Its not going to work. They are going to start a war.
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