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re: Newsweek: An Informer Told the FBI What Docs Trump Was Hiding, and Where

Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Then why is it sealed?

Because it wasn't executed immediately. Trump or the FBI could ask for it to be unsealed.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to
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Having someone with little to no tangential involvement with Trump or accusations against him would probably have been a better choice.
My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:13 pm to
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What relevance? Why would a relationship with Epstein disqualify the Magistrate from this case? From any case other than an Epstein case?

In normal times and with a normal magistrate, maybe it would have no relevance. But you can’t tell us that you don’t see the obvious/willful political intent of things DOJ in 2022 … right?
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm
Posted by AcadieAnne
Where I drink and know nothing.
Member since May 2019
858 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to
Because it would have drawn a crowd while the agents were there. No doubt the crowd would have included at least paid agitators if not worse elements.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101471 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to
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But regardless- I’m not asking those questions to mock Trump…I’m curious why he didn’t jump wayyyy in front of this - he waited until the end- why



You won't volunteer your speculation apparently, but I will mine.

Look how people started showing up outside the place as soon as it was announced. Perhaps - just maybe - he actually didn't want that kind of shitshow when it was happening.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:15 pm to
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But you can’t tell us that you don’t see the obvious/willful political intent of things DOJ in 2022 … right?
I can tell you that you don't seem to know much about how requests for ex parte orders are handled in federal court.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:16 pm to
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My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request

Honest question - do you think that’s how a warrant to raid a US president’s personal residence would be handled by DOJ?
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27375 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:17 pm to
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Both senior government officials say the raid was scheduled with no political motive, the FBI solely intent on recovering highly classified documents that were illegally removed from the White House.



Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33882 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:18 pm to
If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:18 pm to
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do you think that’s how a warrant to raid a US president’s personal residence would be handled by DOJ?
Can't say I've ever requested anything like that.

But my experience is that court staff generally don't give a damn how important you think you or your client might be. They follow their procedures like automatons.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:19 pm to
January 21, 2025, Grady Judd is named new FBI Director with orders to bring the heat. Firings, loss of retirements, prosecutions
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62452 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:20 pm to
Why open the safe ? If they knew, why was it empty?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
48435 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:20 pm to
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My experience in federal court is that you get whatever Magistrate the clerk sends you to see when you walk in the door with a request.

True, but you usually know who the order signing magistrate is that day. Absolutely zero chance they didn’t know which magistrate they would get.

That being said I am amazed nobody else caught the most important piece. According to the government official in the Newsweek piece, the warrant was obtained based upon false information. How isn’t that a huge deal?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
23077 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?



Were they only looking for specific docs or was it anything classified that shouldn't have been there? They got 15 boxes a few months ago which contained some degree of classified documents, now they've been informed there is more there so they probably went there to search through everything.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17916 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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I can tell you that you don't seem to know much about how requests for ex parte orders are handled in federal court.

And I can tell you I don’t give a frick about that. I don’t pretend to be a lawyer. But I have a brain as big as yours, am rational, have my eyes/ears open, and it doesn’t take being a lawyer to see full well what’s going on anymore than it takes an economist to see inflation abound.

Are you seriously going to argue that DOJ applies justice with a blind eye? Liberals have been subject to the exact same treatment conservatives have the last several years?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49441 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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If they had an informant and knew where the docs were, why did it take 9 hours? Why did they need to go through Melanias closet?


the warrant gives them access to the entire residence.

They can claim it's in the safe then look through whatever else they care to. ie-Fishing
Posted by PollyDawg
Member since Jul 2021
1103 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
How did this source know specific documents were in a specific place... the safe?

Apparently their source was wrong because the safe was empty ..so they decided to look around?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36054 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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So the information used to obtain the warrant is admittedly false?


Furthermore, if the informant was credible then why did the judge permit the FBI to search all of the house?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19064 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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he affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago—including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room.


Let’s play this out to a logical conclusion. First, exactly how many people do you think have access to Trumps personal safe? I’d put the number at maybe 5 likely less. More than likely those people would be Trump and his children and you know they didn’t call. So that leaves someone without access to the safe claiming they know what’s in the safe they didn’t have access too. Furthermore, if the informant did have access to the safe they could have provided the access code negating the need for the FBI to crack into it.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
33882 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 3:21 pm to
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They got 15 boxes a few months ago which contained some degree of classified documents, now they've been informed there is more there so they probably went there to search through everything.


How convenient and what a cop out answer for this insane abuse of power

this is banana republic level shite, and Liberals used to screech at the top of their lungs when the “police state” did searches like this on citizens (stop and frisk, fishing expedition traffic stops, etc.)

how the turn tables
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 3:24 pm
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