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re: Supreme Court Says High-School Football Coach Can Pray at 50-Yard Line
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:50 am to goofball
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:50 am to goofball
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For those of you that didn’t go to a private school - did your team kneel in prayer before games? I know the Catholic schools do this, but I don’t recall the public schools.
We did for baseball in the late 80's though it wasn't coach lead. Said a Hail Mary before the game. I wasn't even a very big believer then (and am not at all now) but I liked it because even though I didn't hold much meaning in the words it was like a chant that got everyone together.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:50 am to goofball
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But what if your kid was on the team and the coach did a satanic ritual before the game? Technically he wouldn’t have to participate in the “prayer” but it would be weird no?
I’d love it if the coach would bite the head off of a bat while the assistant coach corn holed the other teams mascot!!! HELL YEAH!!!! LETS KICK SOME arse!!!
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:52 am to goofball
Good.
All other religions can have prayer time but suddenly, Christianity can’t?
All other religions can have prayer time but suddenly, Christianity can’t?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:53 am to goofball
I've seen asst. coaches in Pop Warner, the NCAA, and the NFL pray with players (even those from the opposing team) yet due to Freedom of Religion a high school coach shouldn't be able to do the same?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:53 am to CrystalPreserves
It's very clear you have this idea that churches are purely and inherently exploitative. To you, they cannot possibly exist except as a scam. Religion is a scam, and you are against religion. That's it, so just be honest.
The other problem is you're just wrong. You're very ignorant, you're parroting some typical modern milquetoast antichristian edginess. It's not reality. You can go out and learn this or keep believing things that just aren't true. Most churches are small shoestring community projects of earnest people. A lot of churches around here started with basically people gathering in the woods. It's not a lucrative business
The other problem is you're just wrong. You're very ignorant, you're parroting some typical modern milquetoast antichristian edginess. It's not reality. You can go out and learn this or keep believing things that just aren't true. Most churches are small shoestring community projects of earnest people. A lot of churches around here started with basically people gathering in the woods. It's not a lucrative business
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:54 am to goofball
We prayed before every game, public school late '80s.
We repeated after the coach-
Coach- "Dear Lord we pray,"
Team- "Dear Lord we pray,"
Coach- "We should play to win."
Team- "We should play to win."
Coach- "But if you choose,"
Team- "But if you choose,"
Coach- "We should lose,"
Team- "We should lose,"
Coach- "Help us from giving in."
Team- "Help us from giving in."
Coach- "Amen"
Team- "Amen"
And then we all grew up into shitty people.
We repeated after the coach-
Coach- "Dear Lord we pray,"
Team- "Dear Lord we pray,"
Coach- "We should play to win."
Team- "We should play to win."
Coach- "But if you choose,"
Team- "But if you choose,"
Coach- "We should lose,"
Team- "We should lose,"
Coach- "Help us from giving in."
Team- "Help us from giving in."
Coach- "Amen"
Team- "Amen"
And then we all grew up into shitty people.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:57 am to Gaggle
quote:
It's very clear you have this idea that churches are purely and inherently exploitative. To you, they cannot possibly exist except as a scam. Religion is a scam, and you are against religion. That's it, so just be honest. The other problem is you're just wrong. You're very ignorant, you're parroting some typical modern milquetoast antichristian edginess. It's not reality. You can go out and learn this or keep believing things that just aren't true. Most churches are small shoestring community projects of earnest people. A lot of churches around here started with basically people gathering in the woods. It's not a lucrative business
Helluva lot of logical fallacies and blind asinine assumptions on your part contained in that post.
Thanks for playing.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:01 am to StringedInstruments
quote:quote:
what if your kid was on the team and the coach did a satanic ritual
That’s not going to happen.
Why not?
The left has already tried to use Satanism and weaponize it against freedom of religion. For example, the Satanic statue that was installed at the Illinois State Capital, which had to be tolerated because there were Christmas and Hanukkah displays.
I would say a teacher wouldn't do that, but based on what we've seen from Libs of TikTok, I don't believe that anymore.
So what makes you so sure?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:10 am to efrad
There are some Public schools in part of big cities that are majority Muslim (I know two such schools in Queens NY) and on Long Island majority Jewish schools.
These religions will start doing their thing now and I think it will be a big mess.
These religions will start doing their thing now and I think it will be a big mess.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:12 am to CrystalPreserves
quote:Yeah good game bro. Great effort
Thanks for playing.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:12 am to Darth_Vader
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What leftists don’t understand about the first amendment is its there to protect the church from government, not the other way around. As usual leftists are dead wrong and have things arse backwards.
It's both
I shouldn't have to live my life according to whatever dumb religion you believe in
Posted on 6/27/22 at 11:45 am to bad93ex
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So thankful for the hubris from RBG.
It's another massive leftist downfall. They're all so insanely arrogant.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:13 pm to CrystalPreserves
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Welp, time to end tax exemption for churches. Time to pay up like the rest of businesses have to.
Agreed but not because of this case in particular.
Another SC decision recently ruled that tax money can be used for religious private school tuition. Also, look up how many churches received PPP funds. Churches are big business, don't let them tell you any different.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:19 pm to shaquilleoatmeal
I love how much these recent decisions have triggered the libs here.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:27 pm to goofball
We had a designated person who said a prayer over the PA System before each game at our high school. Just everyday public school. Of course this was in the 60’s when I was in high school.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:28 pm to goofball
First abortion, now this. God is kicking arse and taking names. Praise His name.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:30 pm to lsupride87
Exactly right! The first amendment was designed to keep the government out of the church not the church out of government
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:32 pm to goofball
Like others have mentioned this was about coach having private prayer after game had concluded. It was not about him still leading prayers or about him praying at the center of a school event as the dissenting 3 justices state. I am more surprised decision wasn’t unanimous or even needed to get to Supremes.
As far as article’s description below:
Maybe because those words aren’t specifically in constitution but “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” is (in regards to religion), and this “wall” was also made out to be akin to the Berlin Wall.
Same court incorporated the first amendment which is directed to Congress to apply to states ignoring that was never intent of 14th especially in regards to religion as the failed attempt to add the Blaine Amendment as a constitutional amendment wouldn’t have occurred if it had been intent. Court then took 60 to 85 years (depending on when parts of 1st amendment incorporated) to incorporate the 2nd which explicitly declared a right of the people that shall not be infringed.
Blaine text
As far as article’s description below:
quote:
continuing a line of decisions lowering the wall between church and state.
Maybe because those words aren’t specifically in constitution but “prohibiting the free exercise thereof” is (in regards to religion), and this “wall” was also made out to be akin to the Berlin Wall.
Same court incorporated the first amendment which is directed to Congress to apply to states ignoring that was never intent of 14th especially in regards to religion as the failed attempt to add the Blaine Amendment as a constitutional amendment wouldn’t have occurred if it had been intent. Court then took 60 to 85 years (depending on when parts of 1st amendment incorporated) to incorporate the 2nd which explicitly declared a right of the people that shall not be infringed.
Blaine text
quote:
No State shall make any law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; and no money raised by taxation in any State for the support of public schools, or derived from any public fund therefor, nor any public lands devoted thereto, shall ever be under the control of any religious sect; nor shall any money so raised or lands so devoted be divided between religious sects or denominations.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:37 pm to MEd LSU
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Exactly right! The first amendment was designed to keep the government out of the church not the church out of government
I can't' help but think you upvoted yourself.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 12:40 pm to SlimTigerSlap
Thanks for reminding me. I just did. Downvoted you S well
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