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re: My wife and I had an abortion. AMA

Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:14 pm to
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10677 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:14 pm to
Ok. I'm not arguing with the obstinate. You asked for proof of a miracle. I give you a personal, very real example.

You now move the goal posts....how do you know it was Jesus and not "XYZ".

So now a miracle and proof is not good enough. You need to see a the tag and see the designers label.

This is what the Lord calls Willful Ignorance.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63559 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:15 pm to
It's really not hard to be OK with exceptions for rape or the health of the mother. You're trying to make it seem as if it's hard, but it's easy and extremely reasonable.

As a pro abortion person, when is it not OK to abort in your opinion?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10479 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:16 pm to
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I had a relative born with only a partial brain. Never walked, talked,
,saw or had any control of movement. 17 years he lived as a vegetable.


I just don't see a moral difference between killing him then or killing him now.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
43428 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:17 pm to
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I’m talking about how laws will be written

There will (or should be) 50 different versions of a law regarding abortion - I’m sure there will be a state that has lenient laws for women who were raped.

Hopefully, states will also punish the rapists harder.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:17 pm to
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All that to say, not everyone gets abortions as a form of birth control


Of the 50,000,000 kids weaved killed since Roe, the overwhelming majority were for birth control. If liberals had left well enough alone instead of trying make abortion a form of birth control- all the way up to post birth abortions- maybe Roe wouldn’t have been overturned. Your situation is an outlier and not even close to being reflective of the abortion industry for the past 50 years.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7910 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:19 pm to
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You need to see a the tag and see the designers label.


Correct, that's how proof works.

You're just a guy on the internet making a claim.
Posted by Fox McCloud
Member since Oct 2020
3525 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:19 pm to
There should just be a panel that reviews any request for abortion. Things like rape and medical exceptions would be allowed in situations that make sense. There will have to be exceptions to the rule but if you got knocked up in high school to your high school sweetheart or some classmate, sorry you are having that baby if it’s healthy.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3639 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:20 pm to
It’s a human being.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7910 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Nobody will convince Finley and it's not your job to do so. Pray for him and move on.




This is just something Christians say to make themselves feel better. You won't pray for me. You'll forget about this conversation in an hour. And that's fine because if God is all-knowing then prayers are a waste of time anyway. No point in praying if the future is already determined.
Posted by PetroBabich
Donetsk Oblast
Member since Apr 2017
4673 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:23 pm to
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Perhaps the flunkies in the legislature in Baton Rouge are in a better decision to decide for this family, as God intended.


You make a great point. Since the legality of abortion is up to states now people with passionate opinions on the subject should get off social media and get involved in electing smart, high quality individuals as their legislators and judges.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32961 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:26 pm to
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Let’s talk about the constitution. Fetuses and unborn children are not mentioned either. At the time of the founders fetuses had no rights whatsoever. Where does the idea come that unborn have rights? It certainly isn’t in our constitution or founding documents.

You do realize that you are making his argument for him right? If it isn’t covered in the constitution or covered by a federal law, then it’s a state issue
Posted by Clark W Griswold
THE USA
Member since Sep 2012
10516 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:42 pm to
Life throws us curveballs sometimes. Miracles happen every day and I don’t think I could ever lose hope for my child enough to kill it.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3639 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:43 pm to
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Let’s talk about the constitution. Fetuses and unborn children are not mentioned either. At the time of the founders fetuses had no rights whatsoever.

Where does the idea come that unborn have rights? It certainly isn’t in our constitution or founding documents.



It only became a Constitutional question because some people wanted the right to legally abort their babies. Really it was probably more pernicious than that, but we can accept that as the reason for arguments sake.
The Supreme Court at the time made the unfounded decision to create a Constitutional right to abortion for pregnant women while denying every single right of a different class of human beings. The Supreme Court now is just correcting that error.

Our rights and freedoms aren’t granted by any document or court. The Constitution and BOR recognized and codified some rights and freedom that should exist for every human being in any country at any time in history.

The idea that the unborn have the right not to have their lives snuffed out by their mothers comes from natural law.
As we get further into this modern era, we are losing our collective understanding of these natural laws of existence the recognition of which was a necessary precondition for civilization.

It was surprising to me that the SC still contains enough individuals to produce this kind of ruling. I think it’s a momentary pause in our collective descent.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98713 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:50 pm to
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Man I really think some of you might have autism.


Never put down to disability what is more easily explained by assholery.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:52 pm to
What about Muslims, Mormons, etc, that all claim miracles even more miraculous than yours? Are they right as well?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:56 pm to
So she had a chance of living (albeit small), and you chose to just not deal with it.

Wow
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17367 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:57 pm to
My grandma's first daughter died at 3 days. She didn't perform some inhuman procedure to rid herself of this child. Nature took its course. You took it in to your own hands.

That is 22 weeks.

This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120765 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:57 pm to
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Everyone there was there terminating a wanted pregnancy. one couple had a baby with spinal Bifida iirc.


Wait, so did everybody go around the room saying why they were getting an abortion?

Also spinal bifida is pretty common and you can live a relatively normal life with it depending on severity so thats kinda weird.

This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 3:59 pm
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16143 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:57 pm to
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The only ones that care are the far right religious nut bags on here. Mostly found in the poli board.


Yes, we are the only one who truly care about the lives of the innocent. The demonically possessed who are ok with abortions do not have the ability to care for their souls are lost.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120024 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 3:58 pm to
Well said.
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