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re: My wife and I had an abortion. AMA

Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:01 pm to
So, you murdered a child at TWENTY-TWO weeks, so your THREE YOUR OLD would be ok? WOW. That is some kind of messed up.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
167343 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:02 pm to
You made your choice and that is to be respected. If it were myself I can only tell you that many instances of a diagnosis from a test/image were proven to not be so in many areas both adult and child.

With that being said nowadays I believe they do blood work that accurately shows any abnormalities. So your decision is your decision.

There are some weird people that are so far out right; (I saw some shocking posts on poli) They think all gay people are for children doing sex changes & genital mutilation surgeries. And lump all gays with this issue.

So there may be some people that judge others that did what you had to do; as they play holier than thou art. Ignore them. It is your business.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10521 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:05 pm to
That’s a tough deal to go through and am truly sorry you experienced that.

I know a girl who had a NIPS test done during her pregnancy that showed some kind of abnormality. I am not sure exactly what it was but the doctor told her the best bet would be to abort the baby. She told him that was not an option. The doctor told her that it was not fair to the baby to be born like that and that the baby’s quality of life would be horrible and as the mother it was her responsibility to do what was best for the baby and abort. The mother changed doctors after that and gave birth to a perfectly healthy baby girl. The girl is 9 years old now and the mother sends the original doctor pictures of her daughter at every birthday.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17822 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:05 pm to
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My grandma's first daughter died at 3 days. She didn't perform some inhuman procedure to rid herself of this child. Nature took its course. You took it in to your own hands.


I have a best friend who was born with a heart condition (don’t know what it is called), during the pregnancy doctors said his chance of survival to full term was less than 20%, and that he would not make it to 10 years old. Well now he’s 31, he’s a heart surgeon, and he has a loving wife and he’s starting a family. All because someone chose to fight for that child, rather than give up on them.
Posted by ManWithNoNsme
Member since Feb 2022
924 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:07 pm to
No downvote from me. Everyone has a story. My ex wife got an abortion because she forgot to frick me over a year while she was having an affair. When she told me the happy news she was pregnant I reminded her of the no sex. Abortion and divorce. Oh, her frick buddy didn’t marry her and she now lives in a trailer. Decisions have consequences…who knew?
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17360 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:07 pm to
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So, you murdered a child at TWENTY-TWO weeks, so your THREE YOUR OLD would be ok? WOW. That is some kind of messed up.


That's what you took away from his post?

Read better to post better.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42331 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:08 pm to
Hope the states and their citizens consider your story when crafting laws
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:08 pm to
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Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44255 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:12 pm to
I’m sorry for your loss (and yes, even though the baby wasn’t born, I believe it to be a loss).

I would suggest that most Americans would have no issue doing what you did in your circumstances.

Prayers to you amigo. It sounds as though it was a extremely difficult situation. You did what you felt was best for your family.
Posted by liz18lsu
Member since Feb 2009
18042 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:17 pm to
Similar friends that lost a baby boy to Trisomy after 30 days. Next baby girl has Down Syndrome and is amazing. Oldest child is totally normal. Glad they celebrate their children. Even the ones they lost. Naturally.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79939 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:20 pm to
I'm sorry that happened to you. I haven't an answer for that situation. I am though very happy that states can now ban abortions which are overwhelmingly used for birth control.
Posted by dualed
Member since Sep 2010
4780 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:22 pm to
At around 20 weeks my wife and I went in for an anatomy scan and the ultrasound showed no fluid and severe abnormalities. The ultrasound tech sent us to our doctor and our doctor gave us the news. Our baby has underdeveloped kidneys and couldn’t recycle fluid. He still had a heartbeat, but we were told that he would eventually be crushed later in pregnancy by the lack of fluid. If he did survive full-term, he would be too weak to survive birth or die very shortly afterwards. We decided to terminate the pregnancy. And he had a heartbeat when we did it. His condition was called Potter’s Syndrome and has no known cause. An autopsy later showed he had no kidneys, underdeveloped lungs, twisted intestines, no anus, and a list of other issues.

OP, frick anyone who gives you grief for what you did. I’m sorry for your loss.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79939 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:22 pm to
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The only ones that care are the far right religious nut bags on here. Mostly found in the poli board
Is this how you salve your withered, sociopathic conscience?
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17822 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:27 pm to
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Similar friends that lost a baby boy to Trisomy after 30 days. Next baby girl has Down Syndrome and is amazing. Oldest child is totally normal. Glad they celebrate their children. Even the ones they lost. Naturally.


My wife and I tried for years to get pregnant. A ton of money was spent, and we traveled all over the country going to different doctors trying to find an answer other than “no, it’s not possible”. I am so thankful that we did eventually have children, and that we never gave up on them. There are many blessings that God gives us, but children are one of the best. I remember hearing her cry for the first time and being so thankful to hear that cry. I can remember the multiple late night bottle feedings and the constant crying, and still I was amazed that I finally had this blessing in my arms. I have never seen anything she does, nor the efforts to get her here with us, as a burden. I thank God everyday for blessing us with her. I guess that’s why I am so principled about this. Others seem to just see it as common as a trip to the grocery store. Children are a blessing, their lives are sacred from the moment of conception, and they should not ever be treated any differently.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111417 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:33 pm to
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So, you murdered a child at TWENTY-TWO weeks, so your THREE YOUR OLD would be ok? WOW. That is some kind of messed up.
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My grandma's first daughter died at 3 days. She didn't perform some inhuman procedure to rid herself of this child. Nature took its course. You took it in to your own hands.
If you represent what being Christ like is like, I understand why so many are so sour in religion. Your Jesus sounds like a condescending dick
This post was edited on 6/25/22 at 4:37 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
60598 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:36 pm to
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Also spinal bifida is pretty common and you can live a relatively normal life with it depending on severity so thats kinda weird.

I used to babysit a boy that had spinal bifida. He led a pretty normal life, but he did die in his twenties. Some OBGYNs want a perfect baby, and if there’s a problem - they suggest terminating.
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:38 pm to
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There are some weird people that are so far out right; (I saw some shocking posts on poli) They think all gay people are for children doing sex changes & genital mutilation surgeries. And lump all gays with this issue.

This is nonsense. It’s hardly a “far right” position, because no one stupid enough to think that would be smart enough to be a thought leader on either the far right or the far left.

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So there may be some people that judge others that did what you had to do; as they play holier than thou art. Ignore them. It is your business.


It is clearly NOT just his business. You could try to make the argument that people I don’t know killing each other isn’t my business, but it certainly was the business of the human being whose life was ended.

Regardless, it’s not a question of “holier than thou”. Very few people are holy. The vast majority of left and right have fallen very short of that ideal. But you don’t have to be holy to believe that innocent human beings have the right not to be killed.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30107 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:39 pm to
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OP, frick anyone who gives you grief for what you did. I’m sorry for your loss.


I support this. Every family/person has their own story. In situations like this, it isn’t any Average Joe’s business. Politics and society are trying to deem everything as black and white, and it never is quite that simple.

Some folks would suggest that if you can’t afford to have major surgeries for your infant, you aren’t ready to have a baby. Some will be callous toward you if you decide to terminate after given a small chance at survival. Those are decisions reserved for those going through the trials.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
27163 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:43 pm to
I heard many stories of being told by doctors who say that this baby has no chance and recommends an abortion. One was told the baby would have down syndrome and thus an abortion could be done. The mother was offended and said no that will not be necessary. A lot of people would have aborted that baby because it would be too much of a burden. I say this is that no child is a burden but a gift from a higher power.




Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 6/25/22 at 4:44 pm to
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I support this. Every family/person has their own story. In situations like this, it isn’t any Average Joe’s business. Politics and society are trying to deem everything as black and white, and it never is quite that simple.

Some folks would suggest that if you can’t afford to have major surgeries for your infant, you aren’t ready to have a baby. Some will be callous toward you if you decide to terminate after given a small chance at survival. Those are decisions reserved for those going through the trials.



You could say all of those same things about families that are caring for a severely disabled family member, couldn’t you?
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