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re: Ousmane Dieng
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/23/22 at 7:56 am to SlowFlowPro
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I'm not a big Dieng guy, but his form looks fine, too.
Much like Daniels, I don't really love the release or the motion/placement leading into it.
At the same time, it's a form that shouldn't need too much in the way of adjustments to fix and be more consistent/accurate.
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 7:56 am
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:13 am to Bronc
Dieng gets it off quick off the dribble which is something other guys in this range don’t do. One thing I have noticed is his right elbow is kind of cocked to the side, not Ben Simmons, but something Im sure we will adress and that will bring consistency
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:16 am to 50_Tiger
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Dieng at 8 is absolute dogshit if any of the other three major prospects are on the board.
Who are the three major prospects you speak of
Its not like we are picking first? We have the 8th pick, its a crap shoot, there are no “major” prospects left
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:16 am to TthomasJR
Y’all put too much stock into mock drafts made by nerds. If Dieng is their favorite player, take him at 8. Pelicans don’t need to hit on an immediate contributor this year.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:40 am to hendersonshands
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Y’all put too much stock into mock drafts made by nerds. If Dieng is their favorite player, take him at 8. Pelicans don’t need to hit on an immediate contributor this year.
I've been saying this especially about the NFL draft for years.
People see a bunch of mock drafts from some nerds and form these written in stone opinions based on them.
Teams that ACTUALLY scout prospects and do a lot of work on them have completely different boards.
If you like a guy, pick him. The end.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
Right, "that was a reach!". According to who? Some journalist or fan?
Posted on 6/23/22 at 8:58 am to Epic Cajun
Once I started to realize just how many of these guys are going to be bums I stopped having such written in stone opinions and TRY to be a little more laid back about the draft.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:02 am to Fun Bunch
Also Dieng is my #1 guy now, knowing how much its going to piss some of the casuals off.
Melts are always fun.
Melts are always fun.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:05 am to Fun Bunch
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knowing how much its going to piss some of the casuals off.
you're so hardcore with your attitude of anything is cool w me and that 14th ranked prospect is number 1 in my book.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:07 am to Fun Bunch
Dieng is raw and has a high bust potential, but to me he's not Hayes raw, and Dieng seems to have both a high IQ and love of the game. And has already shown some growth in key areas, which is a big plus to me.
Really the only outcome I would hate is Keegan Murray or trading back.
I'm open minded from there cause there isn't that one guy in our range this year I'm 100% positive wont bust and be a high level player.
Really the only outcome I would hate is Keegan Murray or trading back.
I'm open minded from there cause there isn't that one guy in our range this year I'm 100% positive wont bust and be a high level player.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:07 am to Chad504boy
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you're so hardcore with your attitude of anything is cool w me and that 14th ranked prospect is number 1 in my book.
Thank you, I appreciate the compliment. Been waiting on one from you for awhile.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:09 am to Fun Bunch
Mathurin or Dyson or bust.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:09 am to Bronc
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is raw and has a high bust potential
My wife says the same about me.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:10 am to SLafourche07
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:27 am to CP3forMVP
This isn’t directed at anyone, just interesting to look back and see the analysis on particular players prior to the draft. There are always indicators but no one knows. Not even the so-called experts.
Take a guess who this player is. Lot right, lot wrong. Hint: 2013, pick 15.
No Cheating
Take a guess who this player is. Lot right, lot wrong. Hint: 2013, pick 15.
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NBA Comparison: Nicolas Batum
Strengths: Athletic wing with a remarkable 7’3” wingspan of and incredibly huge hands … He’s still in the development stage and has grown three inches since last year … Standing 6’9”, he has amazing mobility and body control for a guy his height … He’s able to change directions off the dribble and with the ball in his hands with incredible smoothness and quickness, getting to the rim while maintaining excellent balance … His athleticism and wingspan make him able to cover 4 positions on the floor, showing great versatility … He has a natural feel for the game and a good basketball IQ, with good passing skills and instincts and the potential to become a point forward at the next level … Thanks to his big hands and his creativity, he’s an amazing ball handler for his position … He’s unstoppable with momentum, especially during secondary transition, when he can exploit his amazing mobility starting from the dribble … This year during youth games and second division games, he showed the ability to start from one end after the rebound and go coast to coast and get to the rim with 2-3 dribbles, with incredible smoothness and speed … He shows good potential to improve as a shooter even if it’s his main shortcoming at the moment … On the defensive end he has great instincts in the passing lanes and in help situations, often with perfect timing for blocks from the blind side … With his physical tools he could easily guard opposing wings, showing the potential to defend both guards and power forwards, depending match ups. He’s still raw in many perspectives, but his ceiling and upside are the highest among the internationals of this 2013 draft …
Weaknesses: His level of competition is a big concern, because it makes judging his talent and current level very difficult. Without question he has a large basement to go with his large ceiling … Despite his athletic abilities he lacks elite explosiveness … He has to bulk up, working especially in the lower body since he’s definitely too skinny to face NBA opponents at the moment … The concern is how to develop him correctly from the muscular standpoint, in order to avoid loss of speed and mobility (Boris Diaw) … His game off the ball is rather weak, especially related to spacing and use of screens and cuts, in fact most of his offensive production happens with the ball in his hands … The only exception is when he’s slashing to the basket for put backs or on the break … Plus he basically has no mid-range game, he tends to attack the rim without considering the option of the pull up jumper … He shot 31.3 % from three point line this year, showing good potential, but he lacks consistency at this point, his mechanics seems unnatural and not fluent … On the defensive side, he needs to learn the basis, since he’s beaten by the opponents due a lack of proper positioning and comprehension … The overall impression is of a raw prospect from basketball comprehension standpoint, whose is based on instincts, talent, physical gifts and natural feel for the game. For this reason he needs to be tested at a higher level of competition than second division, since his level of experience is definitely low.
No Cheating
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:30 am to LSUChamps03
Huge hands = Gianni's
He's a unicorn
He's a unicorn
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:30 am to LSUChamps03
TBF a bit, that particular player grew like 2-3 inches and was one of the biggest unknowns in history. Put on like 40 pounds.
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:32 am to Bronc
And didn't take that step into the stratosphere until he stopped trying to shoot
It will probably be 10 years until we see another similar unicorn
It will probably be 10 years until we see another similar unicorn
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:38 am to SlowFlowPro
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It will probably be 10 years until we see another similar unicorn
there's a player that if added 40lbs is the next unicorn in this draft.
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