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Ousmane Dieng
Posted on 6/22/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 1:53 pm
Prepare for Dieng to be the pick. Lots of smoke around him. Not sure how I feel
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Posted on 6/22/22 at 1:55 pm to Balsamic_duck
At 10 or 12, yes...not 8...at this point I'll be shocked if the Pels stay at 8
Posted on 6/22/22 at 1:58 pm to BallHawk
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At 10 or 12, yes...not 8...at this point I'll be shocked if the Pels stay at 8
Not sure if he'll be there at 12. Pels really like him and he's being mocked to the spurs at 9 a lot now.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 1:59 pm to Balsamic_duck
Pels Talk ain’t ready for Dieng Supremacy
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:06 pm to Balsamic_duck
My gut says the Spurs take Sochan
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:07 pm to Balsamic_duck
If they really like Dieng too, they need to do that Washington swap. They would get either Dieng or Sochan at 10.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:07 pm to Epic Cajun
Agreed, okay taking him but not at 8.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:12 pm to BallHawk
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My gut says the Spurs take Sochan
Dieng is also a guy I could very much see the Spurs taking if we dont. Same with AJ Griffin. Who I still think has a lot higher floor and ceiling than people around here are giving credit for.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:21 pm to TthomasJR
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Agreed, okay taking him but not at 8.
If we really like him that much, does it matter?
Not saying Dieng is that level player, but I doubt the 14 teams that passed on Giannis are thinking to themselves, yeah, I'm good with it, didn't want to take him that early
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:22 pm to TthomasJR
I don't know how to feel about Dieng. I don't think he has this incredibly high ceiling like I've seen some suggest. I think guys like Sharpe, Daniels, Sochan all have higher ceilings. Maybe even AJ Griffin and Johnny Davis.
I worry that Dieng is similar to a taller Lonzo Ball without the shot. He shys away from contact on both ends of the floor which effects his overall impact, he's long but I don't necessarily think he's switchable, at least right now. So on and so forth. We kind of saw what happens to a guy with playmaking upside when he's against contact and shys away from really putting the ball on the floor.
Plus there's just the whole "raw" thing. When you hear a guy is raw, how often does that guy actually pan out?
I don't necessarily think 8 is to early for him because you hear him linked to 9 and 10, but I'd rather just not take him unless he were to fall a bit.
I worry that Dieng is similar to a taller Lonzo Ball without the shot. He shys away from contact on both ends of the floor which effects his overall impact, he's long but I don't necessarily think he's switchable, at least right now. So on and so forth. We kind of saw what happens to a guy with playmaking upside when he's against contact and shys away from really putting the ball on the floor.
Plus there's just the whole "raw" thing. When you hear a guy is raw, how often does that guy actually pan out?
I don't necessarily think 8 is to early for him because you hear him linked to 9 and 10, but I'd rather just not take him unless he were to fall a bit.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:33 pm to CP3forMVP
You obviously either haven’t watched any film on Dieng or know nothing about basketball
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:36 pm to dirtytigers
Both are false, but by all means tell me where I'm wrong.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:37 pm to dirtytigers
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Dieng did not measure at the combine, which should not affect his draft stock in either direction honestly. Every NBA organization already knows what they are getting with Dieng, in terms of his athleticism and size, if they select him. His athleticism is visibly functional when watching tape, and there are not many questions about his height and length. Below are the measurements for Dieng, which are not “NBA Combine official” but are likely to be accurate.
Age: 19 Height: 6’10” Weight: 215 lbs Wingspan: 7’0” Position: Small Forward College/ Professional Team: New Zealand Breakers
Strengths: The first things that pop off the screen for Dieng are his height and length, which are most apparent on the defensive end of the floor. Despite being a teenager, Dieng is already used to guarding professional players of more than just one position. As he puts more muscle on his body, he could become an elite NBA defender due to his length, size, and impressive defensive instincts (walling up on drives, block/jump timing, etc…). On offense, he has flashes of brilliance in the pick-and-roll, utilizing a consistent floater to keep defenders honest. There are even moments of upside as a scorer, whether through a step-back jump shot or a few dribble combos to get by a weaker defender.
Weaknesses: Dieng’s jump shot is one of the most glaring weaknesses in his game, but his mechanics aren’t terrible by any stretch of the imagination. He has plenty of time to improve his shooting, though. I love Dieng’s floater, but I have concerns about other finishing moves and touch around the rim. His finishes (beyond floaters) frequently lack some fluidity, which will need to improve; however, he has plenty of time to get there. Dieng will also need to put on some more weight and muscle if he wants to effectively finish around the rim in the NBA.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:45 pm to dirtytigers
quote:Honestly, how much has anyone here watched of Dieng other than some youtube videos?
You obviously either haven’t watched any film on Dieng or know nothing about basketball
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:45 pm to bayou39
quote:he has a similar form to what Lonzos was but not as extreme. Definitely fixable with Vinson
Weaknesses: Dieng’s jump shot is one of the most glaring weaknesses in his game, but his mechanics aren’t terrible by any stretch of the imagination.
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 2:59 pm to CP3forMVP
The only one listed with a higher ceiling is maybe Sharpe. Dieng has all the tools to become a top 15 player in the league.
He grew into his game a lot over the season and showed plenty of ability to put the ball on the floor and be a secondary playmaker off of this. His shot improved significantly over the season and I think it got close to 40% from three over the second half of the season. Played in a much more physical league than Daniels and showed a much greater ability to get to the rim and finish through contact.
Defensively just as switchable as everyone in this range just with the most athleticism and length. Better at altering shots than pretty much all non centers in the draft.
I have no clue where your lack of physicality statement came from. Yes he needs to gain strength but what 6’10 19 year old doesn't. Atleast he showed the willingness to play through contact which most guys in this range haven’t.
Yes hes raw, but everyone other player in the draft is raw compared to their long term potential. You are drafted due to the tools you have and thats why hes flown up boards from an unknown to a potential top 10 pick in less than a year.
Source, I stay up late enough where NBL is the only thing on TV. I can also tell you about the Australian Soccer league if needed
He grew into his game a lot over the season and showed plenty of ability to put the ball on the floor and be a secondary playmaker off of this. His shot improved significantly over the season and I think it got close to 40% from three over the second half of the season. Played in a much more physical league than Daniels and showed a much greater ability to get to the rim and finish through contact.
Defensively just as switchable as everyone in this range just with the most athleticism and length. Better at altering shots than pretty much all non centers in the draft.
I have no clue where your lack of physicality statement came from. Yes he needs to gain strength but what 6’10 19 year old doesn't. Atleast he showed the willingness to play through contact which most guys in this range haven’t.
Yes hes raw, but everyone other player in the draft is raw compared to their long term potential. You are drafted due to the tools you have and thats why hes flown up boards from an unknown to a potential top 10 pick in less than a year.
Source, I stay up late enough where NBL is the only thing on TV. I can also tell you about the Australian Soccer league if needed
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:11 pm to dirtytigers
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The only one listed with a higher ceiling is maybe Sharpe. Dieng has all the tools to become a top 15 player in the league.
He grew into his game a lot over the season and showed plenty of ability to put the ball on the floor and be a secondary playmaker off of this. His shot improved significantly over the season and I think it got close to 40% from three over the second half of the season. Played in a much more physical league than Daniels and showed a much greater ability to get to the rim and finish through contact.
Defensively just as switchable as everyone in this range just with the most athleticism and length. Better at altering shots than pretty much all non centers in the draft.
I have no clue where your lack of physicality statement came from. Yes he needs to gain strength but what 6’10 19 year old doesn't. Atleast he showed the willingness to play through contact which most guys in this range haven’t.
Yes hes raw, but everyone other player in the draft is raw compared to their long term potential. You are drafted due to the tools you have and thats why hes flown up boards from an unknown to a potential top 10 pick in less than a year.
Source, I stay up late enough where NBL is the only thing on TV. I can also tell you about the Australian Soccer league if needed
I just dont see him ever reaching that. He's 2 years away from being 2 years away. If we're taking a swing id much rather sharpe
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:22 pm to Balsamic_duck
Pels have the luxury of not needing to pick someone that needs to contribute right away.
I'm all for swinging for the fences with this pick.
I'm all for swinging for the fences with this pick.
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:31 pm to Bronc
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Pels have the luxury of not needing to pick someone that needs to contribute right away.
I'm all for swinging for the fences with this pick.
I agree, we should swing on this pick. I just dont think he's the one to swing on. I think that guy is sharpe who should be there at 8
This post was edited on 6/22/22 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 6/22/22 at 3:33 pm to Bronc
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Pels have the luxury of not needing to pick someone that needs to contribute right away. I'm all for swinging for the fences with this pick.
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Ive said it in other threads but odds are anyone we pick isn’t going to play much. We can get a guy here who will have no problem playing in the GLeague or not getting minutes and just developing while getting stronger. All reports have said he’s an extremely hard worker. Id expect him to start producing on the back half of his second year. We have great players for him to potentially learn from and a guy with a very similar archetype to model his game after in BI. I think his absolute peak is a mix of Giannis and BI but you obviously can’t expect that
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