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Babysitter (Niece) received 5071c letter. Never Filed A Return

Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:19 pm
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:19 pm
My niece watches my two kids some days to help us out while we work. I claimed this amount (roughly $2,500) when I filed my return. This was her only income and well below the $12,550 minimum so she didn’t file a return. Today she received a 5071c letter asking her to verify her ID because the IRS suspected someone used her info to file a fraudulent return. Could this be a result of me listing her on my return or something else? It says failure to verify could result in a delay of her receiving her refund (which she won’t have) and I’ve already received my return. Just trying to see if this is because of me or if someone got ahold of her info.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166500 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:22 pm to
way to stick it to your niece.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
49032 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:25 pm to
Lol you 1099ed your niece babysitting????
Posted by Tigerlandlegend2000
LAPLACE
Member since Jan 2022
9 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:27 pm to
Fairly sure she owes SE tax. Anything over 600 bucks so you putting her info out there raised the flag.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164343 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:33 pm to
Solid troll
Posted by LSUBogeyMan
Member since Oct 2021
1181 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:34 pm to
If you did this to my kid, I’d be more than pissed.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:34 pm to
Ok, so maybe I fricked up. I thought as long as income was below the standard deduction no return was required? So she has to file a return when she only made $2500??
Posted by Clint Torres
Member since Oct 2011
2662 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:36 pm to
JFC
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166500 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

Ok, so maybe I fricked up. I thought as long as income was below the standard deduction no return was required? So she has to file a return when she only made $2500??




i may not be the best uncle but i've never 1099'd any of my nieces and nephews in their life.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8631 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Lol you 1099ed your niece babysitting????


I’ve paid my nephew at least 2k doing lawn work and odd jobs on my property. I can’t imagine 1099ing a kid you pay to do stuff around the house. Lol OP is a dick.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:01 pm to
Although it sounds dickish, this wasn’t intentional. Her Mom (my sister) knew I was doing this. Guess neither of us consider it as self employment and thought it’d fall under the minimum income limits on filing. Having said that what is the best course of action? I assume me filing an amendment would raise more red flags than there already are? Does she need to file a return? What are the penalties for filing late?
Posted by Turftoe
Denver
Member since Mar 2016
3923 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:05 pm to
This some Busch league level shite right here
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119512 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:22 pm to
quote:

Lol you 1099ed your niece babysitting????


My first thought.
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1441 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:30 pm to
If she owes anything at all, you need to pay it. That was downright stupid of you
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27157 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:31 pm to
You better pay that girl what she has to pay to Uncle Sam, and you better pay it in cash. Side-hustles like baby sitting can be considered self employment, and the minimum reporting amount is $400, if my quick google-fu is correct.

quote:

There are some exceptions to the gross income filing requirement. The most common one is self-employment. If you have any self-employment income, such as freelancing, gig work or any "side hustles," this income is usually reported on a 1099-MISC form. You may not receive a 1099-MISC form in some cases. Regardless, you need to file a tax return if your net income for the year (income after self-employment related expenses) was at least $400.


Source
Posted by cfotiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2011
774 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:33 pm to
Yep, she needs to file. While she will not owe any income tax, she will owe self employment tax (social security and medicare tax) on the $2,500. It will cost her about $375 in tax plus penalty and interest. The late filing penalty caps at 25%, but there is no cap on the late payment penalty and interest. All in all, penalty and interest may cost another $125 or so, depending upon which year it was she didn't file.

By the way, you really should have filed a W-2 and paid her social security and medicare taxes for her.
Posted by 21JumpStreet
Member since Jul 2012
14655 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 4:51 pm to
Damn, you suck
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:14 pm to
Why the hell did you claim $2500 in babysitting, let alone from your niece?
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

Why the hell did you claim $2500 in babysitting, let alone from your niece?


Cause it’s a $2500 CREDIT that I thought wouldn’t effect my niece. I’ll pay her tax and penalty and still come out to the good.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
15978 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

By the way, you really should have filed a W-2 and paid her social security and medicare taxes for her.


She would not pass the tests for independent contractor.

You were here only client.
The work had to be done when and where you wanted it done.

You made things complicated.
Now they will look closely at your return too.
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