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re: Babysitter (Niece) received 5071c letter. Never Filed A Return

Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:14 am to
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8612 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:14 am to
At least he didn’t post his stupidity on the OT. Imagine that roasting
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:52 am to
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But he didn’t 1099 her right? He simply tried to get a tax benefit (writing off childcare) and the byproduct affected his niece.


Exactly

quote:

I’m just curious though how did she get roped in? You named her? I guess I didn’t realize you had to specify who did the babysitting.
How would he have claimed childcare credits without affecting his niece?


Yes I had to list her. That is why I said her mother (my sister) knew I was claiming her cause she’s the one who gave me the info. Pretty much went like this “I think I can get a credit from *my niece* for watching the kids. I have to list her on my taxes though. You mind?” My sister “That’s nice! Go ahead.” We both thought she would fall under the minimum income and didn’t consider the self employment side of it. As Zzyzx said, I didn’t 1099 her. I simply took a credit that unintentionally affected her. Yes I’m going to pay her part and file for her. I just wanted to make sure the 5071c letter was because of this and not something else. Thanks for the non help from most of you guys. I really appreciate it..
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8612 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 8:58 am to
Doesn't matter that you didn't send her a 1099. Once you provided her name and social it threw up a flag. I bet you squeak when you walk.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25994 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:05 am to
quote:

At least he didn’t post his stupidity on the OT. Imagine that roasting


Oh if there was a thread made for the OT this is absolutely THE ONE. People would trip over themselves to comment.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4345 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:22 am to
Just out of curiosity - could you walk us through EXACTLY how that conversation with your sister went? Please don't leave out any details.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11512 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:38 am to
quote:

OP could file a return for her, pay the taxes, and help her open a Roth IRA.


You trust the OP with opening a retirement account at this point?
Posted by TigerAlum1982
Member since Sep 2011
1440 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:53 am to
Exactly…he has now caused his niece to be flagged in the IRS system. Will probably follow her for years
Posted by FulshearTiger
Member since Jul 2015
5276 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 10:20 am to
congrats on being a giant fricking douchebag, OP.
Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1884 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 11:31 am to
Haha who would have thought you’d learn so much from this thread

I’m curious then what do people do who hire babysitters that aren’t family members (ie. they don’t care about putting off)?

I’ve never hired childcare. But say you just hired some kid from the local college or something to babysit. Do the guys crapping on the OP just forgo the childcare tax credit and pay cash only? Or do you claim the credit? It doesn’t seem like there’s an option to claim the credit without naming names apparently
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
11290 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:04 pm to
I hop she doubles her rate and asks for benefits after this.
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
24837 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:22 pm to
Don’t listen to these people. Kids need to learn the hard way that the IRS will frick them. You did your niece a solid by letting the IRS frick her over. Great job.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
48954 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 1:24 pm to
Yep Brandon isnt playing around, hope the niece likes federal prison
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
3568 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

I’m just curious though how did she get roped in? You named her? I guess I didn’t realize you had to specify who did the babysitting.




I don't either, perhaps he should actually call the IRS and make sure it's not just identity theft.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:05 pm to
He had to enter her name, address, and ssn on a form to get the credit.

Eta
However, the 5071c is a prove your identity letter, so you might want to get her to log on the special irs site to confirm her identity before doing anything.

Not a tax dude though.
This post was edited on 6/18/22 at 9:09 pm
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 6/18/22 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

However, the 5071c is a prove your identity letter, so you might want to get her to log on the special irs site to confirm her identity before doing anything.


Thanks, this was the point of the post. The letter read:
“Dear TAXPAYER, We received a federal income tax return, Form 1040, for the tax year above (2021) using your name and Social Security number (SSN) or individual taxpayer identification number (ITIN). To protect you from possible identity theft, we need to verify your identity at www.idverify.irs.gov before we process the tax return, issue a refund, or credit any overpayments to your account”.

As I said earlier my return has already been processed and refunded. This reads as if someone used her info to file a return but I guess someone could get that her info was used in a return from that as well. I would think one of us would have received an audit notice and not a 5071c if they suspected one of us for fraud, correct?
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132405 posts
Posted on 6/19/22 at 8:11 am to
quote:

i may not be the best uncle but i've never 1099'd any of my nieces and nephews in their life.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132405 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:44 am to
We need an update.
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:45 pm to
The 5071c letter had nothing to do with my filing. It’s was in regards to her filing for financial aid.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6863 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 8:54 pm to
Why would you do this?
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:01 pm to
You nanny taxed your nice. JFC
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