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re: Babysitter (Niece) received 5071c letter. Never Filed A Return

Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:03 pm to
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10267 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

It doesn’t seem like there’s an option to claim the credit without naming names apparently


Well no fricking shite Sherlock.
Posted by Zachary
Member since Jan 2007
1636 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:08 pm to
"Effect" is both a noun and a verb.
Posted by barbapapa
Member since Mar 2018
3212 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 8:26 am to
That’s true but not how he used it
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
4959 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 10:04 am to
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She would not pass the tests for independent contractor.

You were here only client.
The work had to be done when and where you wanted it done.



Sounds like he made her an employee like a maid or nanny.
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 2:18 pm to
I hope to leave all my nieces and nephews a 1099 for Christmas.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19543 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 3:06 pm to

This is the current max income with no taxes. I was surprised when looking it up for my step-daughter who has her own little internet store.


https://www.freshbooks.com › hub › taxes › how-much-money-do-you-have-to-make-to-not-pay-taxes

How Much Money Do You Have to Make to Not Pay Taxes?


For example, in the year 2021, the maximum earning before paying taxes for a single person under the age of 65 was $12,400. If your income is below the threshold ...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=maximum+income+without+paying+taxes&hps=1&atb=v314-1&ia=web
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Auburn1968


That was my exact thinking when I filed it. I paid her $x.xx amount of money, she’s below the income threshold, all is good. Then people bashed me like I was an a-hole on here.

Someone mentioned SS Tax and Medicare. My question was if I did send her a 1099 and she’s below the income threshold who is responsible for it? I would be treating her as a contractor not an employee. She’s under the threshold. I’m not responsible for her paying taxes on the income and she doesn’t have to pay according to the IRS.

As I stated previously, I’m not a tax guru so if my thinking is wrong (more than likely) I apologize.

Then I was told there’s a difference between income and self employment income. Income is $12,500 and SE income is only like $500.
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 5:27 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80272 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 4:58 pm to
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It’s was in regards to her filing for financial aid.


hope the $2,500 in wages the government now knows about doesn’t exclude her from any aid programs
This post was edited on 8/1/22 at 5:30 pm
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25040 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:12 pm to
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Does she need to file a 1040 and show the $2500? Is it another form for self employment? Any other options besides her filing?
She will have to report the income on a schedule C. Have her create a mileage log and write down the dates she babysat and the distances she had to drive. she can at least chip away at the liability. Add in some meals and entertainment and maybe a percentage of her phone bill that was dedicated for her "babysitting business". Best grey area advice i can do for you.

Next time, dont be a cheap arse and ask an accountant to file for you.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25040 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:14 pm to
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That was my exact thinking when I filed it. I paid her $x.xx amount of money, she’s below the income threshold, all is good. Then people bashed me like I was an a-hole on here.

Someone mentioned SS Tax and Medicare. My question is if I did send her a 1099 and she’s below the income threshold who is responsible for it? I would be treating her as a contractor not an employee. She’s under the threshold. I’m not responsible for her paying taxes on the income and she doesn’t have to pay according to the IRS.
Just stop man. This is why you ask an accountant and not wing it based on limited knowledge of the tax law. If she had w-2 wages and was under the income threshold, you still would file for her so she would receive all the fed and state taxes she paid back. You dont get to OPT out of social security and medicare tax. You should know that
Posted by Chef Free Gold Bloom
Wherever I’m needed
Member since Dec 2019
1364 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:26 pm to
This might be the best thread ever
Posted by GAFF
Georgia
Member since Aug 2010
2450 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 5:39 pm to
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Just stop man. If she had w-2 wages and was under the income threshold, you still would file for her so she would receive all the fed and state taxes she paid back. You dont get to OPT out of social security and medicare tax. You should know that


Hey bro, eat a dick. Obviously I didn’t know that or I wouldn’t have done it.

quote:

This is why you ask an accountant and not wing it based on limited knowledge of the tax law.


Is what I did illegal? No. Is it shitty? If I did it knowingly, yes. As I stated before I didn’t realize there was a difference in income and self employment income. Also, as I’ve stated before, if any kind of audit comes from this I will pay those for my niece. Let it go man.

Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
10577 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:08 pm to
This really should be a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.

Larry hands out 1099s at New Years Party for all the cash work he's paid for during the year...

His secretary's 19 yr old kid for mowing his lawn during the summer that causes him to be federally investigated and audited. He ends up having to drop out of school to pay off the fines...but has to have money to live...and becomes a full time yard boy. Forever an indentured servant to Larry's yard.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132390 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Money Talk


quote:

Hey bro, eat a dick.

Posted by Zzyzx
Member since Nov 2018
1884 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:38 pm to
So what was the answer after all this??

How does he:

A. Pay his niece to babysit
B. Claim childcare credits on taxes
C. Not screw over his niece in the process

What answer fulfills all three at once?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25040 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

How does he:

A. Pay his niece to babysit
B. Claim childcare credits on taxes
C. Not screw over his niece in the process


He isn't really screwing over the niece. Just making her pay her fair share, however, most parents just bite the bullet and let the kid have the income without reporting the expense. What he did isn't wrong. It's just unfortunate because its his relative. If the sitter were unrelated he would be acting responsibly.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25040 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 6:51 pm to
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GAFF
You should add an E to the end
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11510 posts
Posted on 8/1/22 at 7:32 pm to
It was shitty dude, just own up that it was shitty and drop the "if"
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132390 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 1:53 pm to
Late bump

Saw this in my screenshots.


We need an update....
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
3809 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:08 pm to
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Damn, you suck
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