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re: Birds are the only surviving dinosaurs

Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:15 am to
Posted by 3rdgentgr
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:15 am to
Evolution News

Old theories die hard
Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
6139 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:17 am to
Komodo dragons and Keith Richards.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81734 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:43 am to
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No one has ever observed Two animals of the same species give birth to a new spicies.
Because no one believes this. Before you assert that something is false, please understand the something first. Start with "whale legs". It's about as good of a place to begin for those who do not understand evolution.
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23183 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:46 am to
Plus alligators, hippopotamus, and elephants
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12236 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:59 am to
Pretty sure my old room-mate took a brontasaurus home last weekend from Duvics
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15215 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:06 am to
Is this new news? It isn't to me. In the German lagerstatten, Archaeopteryx fossils have shown the feathered dinosaurs that essentially prove this.
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
Member since Feb 2007
27966 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:21 am to
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watch a chicken walk. you can see that t rex is ancester of the bird

because youve seen a t rex walk in similar fashion? amirite?
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 11:25 am to
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But fossil evidence isn’t even the only evidence we have these days


Fossil records do not support Darwin’s evolution. It disapproves it.

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At times during his writing, Darwin seems quite hopeless that the proper fossils to prove his theory would ever be found–he discusses at length the issues of “imperfection” in the fossil and geological records.


And in 2022 we are still looking. Still lacking any real evidence to support evolution.

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Darwin: “Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain; and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory. The explanation lies, as I believe, in the extreme imperfection of the geological record”.


The father of evolution expressed doubt. This theory lacks evidence. It is very interesting but I need proof and science to believe.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 11:42 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:03 pm to
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You would need a million bad mutations for every good mutation to get the modern wing of an eagle.
I don’t accept that this is mathematicly possible
I don't think you're grasping the scale of time and numbers here. Even if we ignore the quadrillions of generations of simple life forms before, just to get from one of the first land animals to a singular modern eagle is hundreds of millions of generations and billions if not trillions of mutations along the way. And that's just one direct lineage. Each of those generations has the potential to multiply the branches by a factor of 2 or 10. If you start at 2 and double the population each generation, you arrive at very, very large numbers after only a few dozen generations. After only 300 generations you arrive at a number of organisms larger than the number of atoms in the universe, a number so large that it would be obnoxiously long to write here. After a hundred million generations your keyboard would wear out before you could finish typing the number.

Of course, the vast majority of those branches die out immediately.

So I also don't think you're grasping how effective the environment can be in selecting for beneficial mutations. A single beneficial mutation likely has about the same chance of being passed to the next generation as a million harmful ones.

I also think that you're viewing this as if a modern eagle was the goal, and that things had to happen just right for it to evolve. But that's just how it happened. If some different creature had evolved, you would be saying that it's mathematically impossible for everything to have happened just right for it to be here. It's like if you get in your car and start driving, taking random turns, with only the selective pressure of the roads to guide your path. Eventually you will end up in some city. Will you marvel at the minuscule odds that you would arrive specifically there, or realize that your odds of arriving somewhere were pretty good?
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Exact opposite???
Yes. We should never, ever observe a "kind" birth a different "kind".
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Do you even know what evolution claims?
I do. You clearly do not.
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Then give me one example of a change of kind with observable evidence.
That would be proof of creation magic. That would be the opposite of evolution.
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Funny how your entire fake belief system crumbles with one question and evolution claims it has happened thousands of time. But….you can’t prove it….blind faith at it is finest.

One day you will think for yourself and realize your fairy tale of evolution is fake.

Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:16 pm to
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Darwin himself has admitted the lack of evidence in the fossil record is the biggest objection to evolution.
Yes, he realized that fossilization is an exceedingly rare event, and that some people would require far more dots to connect in order to abandon their belief in magic and accept reality.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28712 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:40 pm to
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I need proof and science to believe.
Tell the class what you believe and why you believe it.
Posted by Mr Breeze
The Lunatic Fringe
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 1:14 pm to
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 1:17 pm to
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It’s a bit surprising, but birds are the only remaining dinosaurs.

Dude, Alan Grant knew this in 1994.
Posted by Boo Krewe
Member since Apr 2015
9810 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:01 pm to
Watch jurrasic park. Spielberg based therex off the chicken walking
Posted by Xanthus
Member since Dec 2021
273 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:06 pm to
Nope, just a crafty and resourceful person, with chickens and a rooter. Plus a herd of cats and pit bulls.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69196 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:16 pm to
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Now do dolphins and ichtyosaurs


The Field museum in Chicago has a HUGE exhibit comparing the two. Pretty crazy. But the evidence points to dolphins and whales being land mammals that went back into water.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:22 pm to
Man is a super predator
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261573 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:26 pm to
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Keith Richards.


The original primordial ooze that was ejected from the sea. May have even caused the Big Bang.
This post was edited on 6/7/22 at 10:42 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 6/7/22 at 10:39 pm to
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Fossil records do not support Darwin’s evolution. It disapproves it.



You moron.

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And in 2022 we are still looking. Still lacking any real evidence to support evolution.



Idiot.

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It is very interesting but I need proof and science to believe.



There is plenty of proof at the molecular level, but I suspect it'd be a lost cause for you either way.
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