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Fischer: Pels 8th pick a likely trade target, either back or for a vet.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:40 pm
Fischer has been good the past year with inside info, but this one reads more like informed speculation than insider.
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He lists OKC as a possible move back target.
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And akin to the Kings, there’s a likelihood that both Portland’s and New Orleans’ front offices could move those selections for an established veteran or to trade down while adding another rotation piece along the way.
This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40. Multiple agents and league executives at the combine told B/R they expect varying rankings from each team, where players that one front office deemed in the lottery may actually be available in the 20s, and vice versa.
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He lists OKC as a possible move back target.
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Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:42 pm to Fun Bunch
I'd rather just draft at 8.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:44 pm to Fun Bunch
trade down and Sochan, Duren, or Jovic are all good candidates to me.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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there’s a likelihood that both Portland’s and New Orleans’ front offices could
Seems completely speculative although I know I've seen other smoke about this as well. Trading back does make a lot of sense for the Pels.
If Mathurin is gone or the Pels don't want him for some reason, there's a glut of wings with 3&D potential that seem fairly interchangeable. I think the Pels should stay put and get the guy they really want rather than acceptable leftovers, but value-wise it doesn't seem like it would be terrible to fall back to 12 for enough value from OKC.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:54 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:If our top target is not available at 8, I have no problem trading down 3-4 spots in order to either gain a future 1st or unload Graham (or both).
Fischer has been good the past year with inside info, but this one reads more like informed speculation than insider.
quote:
And akin to the Kings, there’s a likelihood that both Portland’s and New Orleans’ front offices could move those selections for an established veteran or to trade down while adding another rotation piece along the way.
This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40. Multiple agents and league executives at the combine told B/R they expect varying rankings from each team, where players that one front office deemed in the lottery may actually be available in the 20s, and vice versa.
LINK
He lists OKC as a possible move back target.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:57 pm to Fun Bunch
the fact that they traded down from 4 in 2019, reports were that they were trying to trade down from 13 in 2020, and then successfully traded down from 10 in 2021, makes it seem like a forgone conclusion that they will try to move down from 8.
If they were to get a proven veteran player, like Huerter, then i'm all for it. I don't want anyone from OKC or Houston, and i don't want to trade 8 for 13/15 from Charlotte. Chicago and Minny aren't giving up anyone worth while.
Maybe the Knicks would like to move from 11 to 8, and i'd give them Graham for Alec Burks in that scenario.
If they were to get a proven veteran player, like Huerter, then i'm all for it. I don't want anyone from OKC or Houston, and i don't want to trade 8 for 13/15 from Charlotte. Chicago and Minny aren't giving up anyone worth while.
Maybe the Knicks would like to move from 11 to 8, and i'd give them Graham for Alec Burks in that scenario.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 1:59 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Did I miss this? I did see OKC listed as one of a few teams to monitor for a potential trade up given they have 2 draft choices from 12-30, but did not see them listed specifically as a target.
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He lists OKC as a possible move back target.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 2:22 pm to Fun Bunch
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He lists OKC as a possible move back target.
The farthest I'd want to move back would be 10 or 11.
Really want to walk away from the draft with one of:
Jeremy Sochan
Bennedict Mathurin
AJ Griffin
Johnny Davis
And, I don't think that's a guarantee if you move all the way down to 12. IMO, it's likely that those 4 plus Duren go 7-11. I guess Daniels could squeak in the top 11 and push one of those 4 to 12, but I wouldn't feel confident in that.
ETA: I guess if Duren went 7, and the Pels had assurances from OKC that they were taking Daniels at 8, they could still land one of those 4 at 12, but who knows what the Pels big board actually looks like anyway.
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 2:38 pm to Fun Bunch
Ochai is one of my favorite win now and fit prospects in the entire draft so I honestly wouldn’t mind trading down if the value makes sense.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 3:54 pm to Fun Bunch
If we traded back to 12 and Dieng was there, I'd be OK with that
I feel like 8-12 is kind of even
I feel like 8-12 is kind of even
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:00 pm to Fun Bunch
Theo Maledon and Lu Dort please. I just don’t see the value in trading back without getting a quality 6th man or better in return. In other words I can’t see us trading #8 for just #12 and #16 to free up a little space. I CAN see us trading #8, Graham, and Temple for a 3rd guard in rotation behind CJ/ BI.
I think we keep the pick unless we are immediately upgrading our #3 guard. Otherwise just keep Graham/ Kira in case their value increase and role with the best playmaker at #8.
I think we keep the pick unless we are immediately upgrading our #3 guard. Otherwise just keep Graham/ Kira in case their value increase and role with the best playmaker at #8.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:22 pm to Fun Bunch
I’d rather trade up for Sharpe if he falls past SAC.
I feel like this is misleading. I agree that the gap in the talent for the prospects between 12 and 40 is not nearly as wide as in other years. But this also just tells me what we already know: there’s a fall off in talent after the 9-11th prospect. Which tells me we should keep a top ten pick.
If you could guarantee that one of Sochan, Daniels, or Mathurin is there at 12, and OKC offered us 12, Dort, and Kenrich for 8 and Graham then I’m all for it. I just don’t see that happening and obviously disagree with the talent level.
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This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40.
I feel like this is misleading. I agree that the gap in the talent for the prospects between 12 and 40 is not nearly as wide as in other years. But this also just tells me what we already know: there’s a fall off in talent after the 9-11th prospect. Which tells me we should keep a top ten pick.
If you could guarantee that one of Sochan, Daniels, or Mathurin is there at 12, and OKC offered us 12, Dort, and Kenrich for 8 and Graham then I’m all for it. I just don’t see that happening and obviously disagree with the talent level.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:44 pm to Fun Bunch
I cannot possibly convey how disgusted this makes me feel. Just use the fricking pick and run it back with a healthy team.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:57 pm to Fun Bunch
Call OKC and see if they'll trade Dort and pick 12 for Graham and pick 8.
That's the only kinda deal I'd be interested in moving down. I'd be VERY interested in moving up though.
That's the only kinda deal I'd be interested in moving down. I'd be VERY interested in moving up though.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:19 pm to Fun Bunch
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This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40.
First off. Wut lol
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where players that one front office deemed in the lottery may actually be available in the 20s, and vice versa.
So top 20 are lottery? And top 12-40 all have the same value more or less?
This just sounds dumb
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