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Posted on 5/20/22 at 3:49 pm to NOSHAU
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If our top target is not available at 8, I have no problem trading down 3-4 spots in order to either gain a future 1st or unload Graham (or both).
That’s a hard pill to swallow giving up 15 for Graham and then move down close to that area just to unload him?
His contract is not that bad, part of the reason we had to give up a first for him to begin with. We should be trying to move up if Ivey or Sharpe start to drop some.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 3:54 pm to Fun Bunch
If we traded back to 12 and Dieng was there, I'd be OK with that
I feel like 8-12 is kind of even
I feel like 8-12 is kind of even
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:00 pm to Fun Bunch
Theo Maledon and Lu Dort please. I just don’t see the value in trading back without getting a quality 6th man or better in return. In other words I can’t see us trading #8 for just #12 and #16 to free up a little space. I CAN see us trading #8, Graham, and Temple for a 3rd guard in rotation behind CJ/ BI.
I think we keep the pick unless we are immediately upgrading our #3 guard. Otherwise just keep Graham/ Kira in case their value increase and role with the best playmaker at #8.
I think we keep the pick unless we are immediately upgrading our #3 guard. Otherwise just keep Graham/ Kira in case their value increase and role with the best playmaker at #8.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:04 pm to Dantheman504
Cavs: Pick #8 and #52, Graham, Kira, Temple
Pels: Pick #14 and #39, Colin Sexton.
Pels: Pick #14 and #39, Colin Sexton.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:13 pm to Dantheman504
I really think Sexton is a No-Go for this roster.
I believe Kira is plugged in with this team and he warned Sexton to keep the same energy next time we matched up. When hopefully our squads meet healthy, including himself.
Kira Lewis Jr. will turn some heads next year. I hated how Beverly bitched him on the court but it was a valuable experience for the kid.
I believe Kira is plugged in with this team and he warned Sexton to keep the same energy next time we matched up. When hopefully our squads meet healthy, including himself.
Kira Lewis Jr. will turn some heads next year. I hated how Beverly bitched him on the court but it was a valuable experience for the kid.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:18 pm to Don Pel
Sexton isn't a PG. He'd be a 6th man/combo guard for us in the Jamal Crawford role (instant offense). I would love to have him. Not crazy about giving him 20M+ a year though..
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:22 pm to Fun Bunch
I’d rather trade up for Sharpe if he falls past SAC.
I feel like this is misleading. I agree that the gap in the talent for the prospects between 12 and 40 is not nearly as wide as in other years. But this also just tells me what we already know: there’s a fall off in talent after the 9-11th prospect. Which tells me we should keep a top ten pick.
If you could guarantee that one of Sochan, Daniels, or Mathurin is there at 12, and OKC offered us 12, Dort, and Kenrich for 8 and Graham then I’m all for it. I just don’t see that happening and obviously disagree with the talent level.
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This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40.
I feel like this is misleading. I agree that the gap in the talent for the prospects between 12 and 40 is not nearly as wide as in other years. But this also just tells me what we already know: there’s a fall off in talent after the 9-11th prospect. Which tells me we should keep a top ten pick.
If you could guarantee that one of Sochan, Daniels, or Mathurin is there at 12, and OKC offered us 12, Dort, and Kenrich for 8 and Graham then I’m all for it. I just don’t see that happening and obviously disagree with the talent level.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:27 pm to Dantheman504
Can’t sign and trade players before the draft
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:30 pm to Don Pel
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I really think Sexton is a No-Go for this roster.
Correct. Plus he’s a RFA. We can’t do a sign-and-trade on draft night
Posted on 5/20/22 at 4:44 pm to Fun Bunch
I cannot possibly convey how disgusted this makes me feel. Just use the fricking pick and run it back with a healthy team.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:03 pm to Not Cooper
David Griffin tries to trade back every year. This shouldn’t be a surprise. It also makes sense this year.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:08 pm to Not Cooper
I wouldn’t freak out too much about this.
It’s just stating the obvious. We have a ton of young assets and a ton of future draft picks. We aren’t going to take assets like TM3, Jose, Herb, etcc to trade up in a draft. So logically we will make the pick, trade back, or trade it for a vet. He’s simply stating the only other 2 scenarios besides us taking the pick.
It’s just stating the obvious. We have a ton of young assets and a ton of future draft picks. We aren’t going to take assets like TM3, Jose, Herb, etcc to trade up in a draft. So logically we will make the pick, trade back, or trade it for a vet. He’s simply stating the only other 2 scenarios besides us taking the pick.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:15 pm to Fun Bunch
I've come around to Fun Bunch's position. We should drop Graham and/or Temple's salary if we can, and the easiest way to do that is on draft night.
So, I think that we're either trading up or trading back, and trading back is more likely.
We can open up a roster spot for a 2nd round pick and/or we dump enough salary so that we can use MLE money on a decent player and still stay under the tax.
So, I think that we're either trading up or trading back, and trading back is more likely.
We can open up a roster spot for a 2nd round pick and/or we dump enough salary so that we can use MLE money on a decent player and still stay under the tax.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 5:28 pm to Not Cooper
Depends on what the trade back is for.
Say OKC calls and offers to send Dort and #12 for Graham and 8. You have to do that because you’re getting an upgrade on Graham and clearing what could be a logjam at PG next season, while getting another high level defender that can give you good minutes on a small contract.
I’m all for a trade down if it makes sense, but if it doesn’t make sense then stand pat and take Mathurin.
Say OKC calls and offers to send Dort and #12 for Graham and 8. You have to do that because you’re getting an upgrade on Graham and clearing what could be a logjam at PG next season, while getting another high level defender that can give you good minutes on a small contract.
I’m all for a trade down if it makes sense, but if it doesn’t make sense then stand pat and take Mathurin.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 8:57 pm to Fun Bunch
Call OKC and see if they'll trade Dort and pick 12 for Graham and pick 8.
That's the only kinda deal I'd be interested in moving down. I'd be VERY interested in moving up though.
That's the only kinda deal I'd be interested in moving down. I'd be VERY interested in moving up though.
Posted on 5/20/22 at 9:03 pm to RUFshreve
You’ll have to pay Dort. He’s on a Team Option next year at only 1.9.
Unless you just think of him as a 1 year rental salary dump.
I’m also perfectly fine with keeping 8.
I’m just saying there are options, and that’s one.
I like the thought of 12 and future pick(s) plus salary dump.
But I also love guys like Mathurin
Unless you just think of him as a 1 year rental salary dump.
I’m also perfectly fine with keeping 8.
I’m just saying there are options, and that’s one.
I like the thought of 12 and future pick(s) plus salary dump.
But I also love guys like Mathurin
Posted on 5/20/22 at 10:31 pm to Pelefraan 1
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If we traded back to 12 and Dieng was there, I'd be OK with that
I’m not a big fan of trading down but I’d be pretty happy if we wound up getting him or Branham. I just love their potential and both seem like modest mature kids who understand their flaws and what they ned to improve. Similar to guys like Trey who’s always straightforward with himself to the media. Unlike guys like Chet who thinks he’s going to be the best player in the NBA from day 1.
I think this draft has potential to be the type of class with a lot of its best of the class being in the early double digit range
This post was edited on 5/20/22 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:19 pm to Fun Bunch
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This draft is considered deep in talent between Nos. 12 and 40.
First off. Wut lol
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where players that one front office deemed in the lottery may actually be available in the 20s, and vice versa.
So top 20 are lottery? And top 12-40 all have the same value more or less?
This just sounds dumb
Posted on 5/20/22 at 11:25 pm to Don Pel
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Kira Lewis Jr. will turn some heads next year
Wtf have you seen from him to make you think this? I don’t think Kira will Amount to anything In the nba. He just doesn’t have it. The faster we can all accept that and move on, the faster we get better.
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