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Someone brief me on why big churches got ppp loans
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:20 pm
I've been playing with this site and I've noticed big churches getting million dollar loans. I don't got why they need so much money when legit small businesses needed it most
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Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:21 pm to mailman
got to pay those pilots, baw
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:22 pm to mailman
I am confident no one wanted to be the politician to say churches can't get assistance in this political climate.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:23 pm to mailman
PPP was to pay employees, not to pay employees for small businesses only. Doesn't matter if the business is large or not, they still have employees.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:23 pm to mailman
You ask too many questions
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:23 pm to mailman
In some areas police were raiding churches because they dared to get together. Those absolutely deserve compensation.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:23 pm to mailman
Because they are non-profit small businesses 
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:23 pm to mailman
Because the Democrats were buying votes with your tax dollars. It's as simple as that.
Any organization that can influence lots of people, churches are a prime example, got massive loads of "free money" from the D party with the expectation they will vote for more of that in the future.
Any organization that can influence lots of people, churches are a prime example, got massive loads of "free money" from the D party with the expectation they will vote for more of that in the future.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:29 pm to mailman
Need new stadium seats for the auditorium and a 3x6 Marshall stack for the band.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:29 pm to mailman
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I've been playing with this site and I've noticed big churches getting million dollar loans. I don't got why they need so much money when legit small businesses needed it most
You think people who work at churches are all volunteers? They run daycares and other shite that costs real money. They don't pay well but they do pay. My ex MIL managed a church daycare her whole adult life. They had a kitchen staff, custodian staff, grounds crew that were full-time employees with benefits. Then you had high school and college kids along with a few older ladies who worked in the actual daycare year-round.
And this was a small church in Mississippi.
This post was edited on 3/29/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:29 pm to jbgleason
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Because the Democrats were buying votes with your tax dollars. It's as simple as that.
Any organization that can influence lots of people, churches are a prime example, got massive loads of "free money" from the D party with the expectation they will vote for more of that in the future.
How did you shoehorn this shite take into this?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:31 pm to jbgleason
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Because the Democrats were buying votes with your tax dollars. It's as simple as that.
Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't the original PPP bill fully bipartisan and bicameral and signed by an R?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:33 pm to mailman
Preacher’s million dollar McMansion ain’t gonna pay for itself.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 12:46 pm to mailman
because religion is a business.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:29 pm to mailman
PPP should have never happened for anyone.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:40 pm to mailman
Churches received PPP loans for the same reasons other entities, both business & non-profits, received PPP loans: so they could continue to pay their employees (including church secretaries, janitors), pay their utilities and rent, at a time when many churches were shut down and couldn't earn income thru the offering plates, pot luck dinners, bingo and other traditional methods that they raise $$$.
PPP loan amounts were based upon an organization's payroll...if they had many employees, they got more $$$ than a smaller organization that had fewer employees.
In computing the amount of PPP loan an organization was entitled to, salaries were capped at a certain level (basically $100,000 on an annual basis) so an organization didn't get more $$$ for its higher paid employees.
Is OP upset that churches got PPP funds? How about other charitable organizations? Only upset about the big churches? Is OP equally upset about big businesses getting PPP loans?
PPP loan amounts were based upon an organization's payroll...if they had many employees, they got more $$$ than a smaller organization that had fewer employees.
In computing the amount of PPP loan an organization was entitled to, salaries were capped at a certain level (basically $100,000 on an annual basis) so an organization didn't get more $$$ for its higher paid employees.
Is OP upset that churches got PPP funds? How about other charitable organizations? Only upset about the big churches? Is OP equally upset about big businesses getting PPP loans?
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:43 pm to mailman
Many were forcibly closed for months during the pandemic, and thus had severely reduced donations with the same or increased fixed costs. It’s not like church buildings suddenly didn’t need maintenance or poor people were no longer hungry.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 1:45 pm to mailman
I mean, I kinda get the sentiment that if they're tax exempt, they shouldn't be getting government benefits. But they were directly shut down from conducting normal business by the government. I know a couple of people who make their living working for churches and I don't think they should have been punished and not able to make their living because the govt said so.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 2:33 pm to mailman
You gotta pay those molestation settlements somehow.
Posted on 3/29/22 at 2:35 pm to texn
Is OP upset that churches got PPP funds? How about other charitable organizations? Only upset about the big churches? Is OP equally upset about big businesses getting PPP loans?
I'd like to see their balance sheet, how do they not already have millions saved up from free money. I'm not talking small churches here, I'm talking ones with 5k+ congregations. You don't think the top 20 percent of ppl quit tithing? That alone would be enough to keep the lights on
I'd like to see their balance sheet, how do they not already have millions saved up from free money. I'm not talking small churches here, I'm talking ones with 5k+ congregations. You don't think the top 20 percent of ppl quit tithing? That alone would be enough to keep the lights on
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