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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:53 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
1376 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 7:53 pm to
As we know, the Venn diagram of people who oppose supporting Ukraine and also support government programs to provide and care for the homeless and impoverished are nearly completely overlapped.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3813 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:51 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways

Ukrainian forces continued counteroffensive operations in at least three directions and made further limited territorial gains on June 13.

Russian President Vladimir Putin met with 18 prominent Russian milbloggers and war correspondents to discuss the progress of the Russian invasion of Ukraine on June 13.

Putin discussed the progress of the Ukrainian counteroffensive and signaled that he believes Russia can outlast Western military support for Ukraine.

Putin indicated that he is unwilling to announce a second wave of mobilization or declare martial law, despite maintaining his maximalist objectives in Ukraine.

Putin aimed to assuage widespread discontent in the Russian information space about limited cross border raids by pro-Ukraine forces into Belgorod Oblast, drone strikes across Russia, and border security in general.

Putin discussed the importance of formalizing volunteer formations, supporting the Russian MoD’s measures to centralize its control over operations in Ukraine.

Putin is likely continuing to publicly engage with, and platform select pro-Kremlin milbloggers to further leverage the community to expand his support among Russian ultranationalists.

Russian sources claimed that a Ukrainian missile strike killed Chief of Staff of the 35th Combined Arms Army (Eastern Military District) Major General Sergei Goryachev in Zaporizhia Oblast.

Russian forces conducted missile and drone strikes across Ukraine on June 13.

Russian authorities continue to express increasing concern over information related to Russia’s defense industrial base (DIB).

Russian forces continued ground attacks on the Kreminna frontline but did not conduct offensive operations on the Kupyansk-Svatove line.

Ukrainian forces continued to advance on Bakhmut’s northern and southern flanks, while Russian forces launched counterattacks in the vicinity of Bakhmut.

Russian forces continued offensive operations on the Avdiivka-Donetsk City line and are transferring additional forces from east (left) bank Kherson Oblast to reinforce the direction.

Russian forces conducted limited ground attacks near the administrative border of Donetsk and Zaporizhia oblasts.

Russian President Vladimir Putin claimed that the Russian military have recruited 150,000 contract servicemembers as well as over 6,000 volunteers since January 2023.

Russian occupation officials in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast are reportedly continuing evacuation efforts, although are likely continuing to deny services to some residents in flooded areas.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36577 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 8:56 pm to
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quote:I’m just glad we gave billions to Ukraine while hobos and drugs are a plenty in the USA.

Lol, the Ukraine war has been glowing success compared to the war on drugs and war on poverty here in the states.

People like that enable the hobos and drug addicts. They give them money which supports their habit and keeps them on the street corners.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9883 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:21 pm to
I not only grew up around WWII and Korean Veterans but worked as a waiter in the backrooms of American Legion Post 1 in Lake Charles serving the pool tables and poker/bourre/gin players, while in college. They all looked down on veterans who couldn't hold a job. That being said, they understood the veterans who were in VA shell shock units for decades that every many has a breaking point. Some can handle being pounded by artillery, some cannot.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33363 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:47 pm to
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Lol, the Ukraine war has been glowing success compared to the war on drugs and war on poverty here in the states.


That’s a low bar
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18261 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:52 pm to
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That’s a low bar

That you chose
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33363 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 9:56 pm to
I’m just not about wasting billions of dollars while Americans suffer.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:07 pm to
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I’m just not about wasting billions of dollars while Americans suffer


We waste hundreds of billions a year on social security just so boomers like you can sit on the couch and shitpost on the OT.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10155 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:11 pm to
Wow.

This thread has gone to shite.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:12 pm to
Yea I just walk away for a day or two when it gets like this.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6784 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:18 pm to
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hobos and drugs are a plenty in the USA. Money won’t fix these issues in the US.


Two parent households could fix it, but that isn’t for this thread.
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
33363 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 10:20 pm to
It’s sad that our politicians are more worried about Ukraine.
This post was edited on 6/13/23 at 10:20 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9883 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:13 pm to
Russian fortifications on topography.

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Russian fortifications on Satellite map

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Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145489 posts
Posted on 6/13/23 at 11:44 pm to
we are literally giving nazis billions of dollars in a duffle bag that is assuredly going to their nazi bio labs in their underground salt mines
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35510 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:05 am to
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we are literally giving nazis billions of dollars in a duffle bag that is assuredly going to their nazi bio labs in their underground salt mines
That was a joke, right? Because things have not been going well on the Poli Board and reality seems to be slipping away at times.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 12:06 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9883 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 12:10 am to
He's joking
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2700 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:20 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 14 June 2023

In the last two weeks, there has been an uptick in Russian tactical combat air sorties, especially over southern Ukraine. This has almost certainly been in response to reports of increased Ukrainian offensive operations, as the Russian Aerospace Forces (VKS) attempt to support ground troops with air strikes.

Despite the uptick, VKS' daily sortie rate remains much lower than the peak of up to 300 daily missions early in the war.

Since the start of the invasion, the south of Ukraine has often been more permissible for Russian air operations compared to other sectors of the front. Over the last year, VKS has increased its use of air-to-surface weapons, such as glide bombs, which allow attack aircraft to remain well away from their targets.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2700 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 4:39 am to
From The Kyiv Independent

Air Force: Ukraine downs 3 missiles, 9 drones overnight

by Martin Fornusek June 14, 2023 9:03 AM

Ukraine's air defense shot down three out of 10 Russian cruise missiles and nine out of 10 kamikaze drones launched overnight, the Air Force reported on June 14.

Russian forces fired four Kalibr cruise missiles from the Black Sea in the direction of Odesa Oblast. Three of them were shot down, one hit a civilian target in the city, the report said.

According to Ukraine's Southern Command, at least three people were killed and 13 injured in the Odesa strike.

Russia also launched six Kh-22 air-based cruise missiles from Tu-22M3 bombers from the Rostov direction. According to the Air Force, they hit Donetsk Oblast, with the consequences still to be confirmed.

Some 10 Shahed-131/131 kamikaze drones were also launched from the eastern coast of the Sea of Azov, nine of which were shot down, the report said.

Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
37396 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 5:23 am to
That missile barrage seems to have had a much more diverse group of targets locations than previous rounds. Seems that they just threw everything at Kiev for a few weeks.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 5:24 am
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
3813 posts
Posted on 6/14/23 at 6:22 am to
Random tweets

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Ramzan Kadyrov published a cryptic message on his telegram saying he lost his dear BROTHER Adam Delimkhanov who is not getting back to him. Kadyrov is asking Ukrainian intelligence to say what positions they hit so he could find his friend:

"I'm unable to reach Adam Delimkhanov in any way. He isn’t getting in touch.

I ask Ukrainian intelligence to provide information on exactly what place and what positions were hit, so that I could still find my dear BROTHER.

I promise a generous reward and I ask you to help."

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The #German Embassy in #Ukraine announced the forthcoming delivery of 20 Marder infantry fighting vehicles for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

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#Russia has been named the biggest threat to peace and security in #Germany's new national security strategy

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The bizarre situation with Adam Delimkhanov appears to be connected to a number of outcries in Z-channels today complaining about Russian commanders concentrating infantry near the frontline. The reports seem to suggest that a HIMARS arrived at a location near Kreminna recently, killing hundreds of Russians preparing for an assault against Ukrainian positions, and Delimkhanov could be among the wounded.

Here are some excerpts from Russian channels:

Starshe Eddy, 8:46AM:

"If by the middle of the second year of the war there are commanders who take columns to the front and concentrate all personnel in one big pile, and wait for the enemy artillery to strike, then such commanders must be shot before in front of the formation, even if they are colonels or even generals."

Crybar, 8:52AM:

"It was near Kremennaya, a tragic incident occurred in one of the divisions that were about to go on the offensive.

For two hours people stood in a crowd in one place and waited for the division commander to say his motivating speech.

But instead of him, the HIMARS MLRS and enemy artillery had their say.

In the South Donetsk direction, in a few days there were fewer casualties in the battles than from the criminal stupidity of the division commander."

Dva Mayora, 9:15AM

"B*tch, you shouldn't stay in a column for two hours in one place! What are you doing, father commanders? You are commanding people!

Will they prosecute bloggers again instead of the degenerates with high ranks?

The Armed Forces of Ukraine have no merit in this war. We are at war with our own stupidity and lack of care, mixed up with positive reports."

Voyenniy Osvedomitel, 9:23AM:

"Let's add that the people responsible for this have already managed to “become famous” in other areas more than once. And not only the division commander but also his immediate superior.

However, instead of bearing responsibility, comrades degenerals continued to selflessly occupy key army positions.

The result was not long in coming. Should we expect punishment for them this time, or will it all happen again? For us, this question is, alas, rhetorical."

Some seem to point at a general related to the infamous 155th Banzai Marine Brigade which was demolished in Pavlivka last November, as the culprit of the incident. The general's name is Sukhrab Akhmedov.

Regardless of any involvement of Delimkhanov in the incident, the strike could be another great victory for Ukrainians

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Russia Doubles Trained Dolphins Defending Base Against Ukrainian Attacks
The threat of Ukraine's elite special forces divers must loom large in the minds of the Russian Navy. As well as extensive anti-torpedo nets and rocket launchers, Russia has increased the trained dolphins guarding Sevastopol in Crimea.

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Fighting continues in the area of Makarivka

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