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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:47 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:47 am to
They don't even have gloves. Watch this recent video: LINK

The Russian troops are so numb and disoriented from hypothermia that they can't even react to a grenade going off right next to them in their trench.

And it's still November. I think that thousands of Russian soldiers will freeze to death this winter.
Posted by AbramsTankBrigades
Madison
Member since Nov 2022
98 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:53 am to
Good, death to Russian gang rapers
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Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26065 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:11 am to
quote:

They don't even have gloves.


A lot of people keep banging on about General Frost but they forget two things:

1. Ukraine is fighting on their land, it isn't like they are used to the winters in their own country. The history of Russian winter "wins" comes mainly from fighting countries not used to Russian winters. In the Winter War the tiny little Fins put up a hell of a fight, though they lost some land Russia looked like bumbling idiots.

2. When opposing forces in a winter fight are used to the same climate, the advantage shifts heavily to the one with the best personal cold-weather gear. Who wants to bet that is Russia in the winter of '22/'23?
Posted by TigersnJeeps
FL Panhandle
Member since Jan 2021
1742 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 10:24 am to
Some keep bringing up General Winter in WWII and how the Russians will do better just like 80 years ago.

As you and others mentioned, this time it's the Russians who appear to be the poorer equipped for it.

Circumstances can change in 8 decades.....
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2678 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 11:35 am to
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Circumstances can change in 8 decades.....


Yes, 80 years ago Russia received via Lend-Lease

1.5 million blankets
15 million pairs of army boots
107,000 tons of cotton
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5850 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 11:47 am to
Anything big happened the last few days? Work has been a bitch this week haven’t had the chance to read up. TIA. Happy late Thanksgiving to everyone!
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 11:49 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65022 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 11:50 am to
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Yes, 80 years ago Russia received via Lend-Lease


If not for Lend-Lease the Red Army would have been a mob of barefoot starving half naked men freezing to death in the snow. Their ammo, tanks, guns etc. would have been stuck in factories deep in the Urals with no way other than donkeys & oxen to transport them to the front.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:05 pm to
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If not for Lend-Lease the Red Army would have been a mob of barefoot starving half naked men freezing to death in the snow. Their ammo, tanks, guns etc. would have been stuck in factories deep in the Urals with no way other than donkeys & oxen to transport them to the front.


And for some reason they think they defeated the Nazis all by themselves.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
65022 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:22 pm to
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And for some reason they think they defeated the Nazis all by themselves.


They did shoulder the lion’s share of the fighting. That much cannot be denied. But without American aid, even with the losses they inflicted on the Wehrmacht, they’d have collapsed by early 1944.
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 1:08 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40233 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 2:30 pm to
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This is from an article on Fox this morning. Says other cities in danger also. So is this Russia's plan and why they have been pulling forces back? Freeze and starve out Ukraine?


Basically but I don’t if the Russians have enough missiles to do it though. The Ukrainians have hooked up their grid to the EU’s grid and they can power all of western Ukrainian from power they get Poland and the Czech Republic and Slovakia which is why they are trying to get citizens to evacuate Kyiv and other cities and go to western Ukraine for the winter.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9823 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 2:38 pm to
Don't forget that the Wehrmacht had its own logistical problems with horse drawn wagons for most of its transportation.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9823 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:14 pm to
Russia imports the vast majority of its clothing, inlcuding winter clothing. It might be good to know who is exporting to them.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:19 pm to
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It might be good to know who is exporting to them.



Probably Egypt. I know they grow a lot of cotton and have always had a relationship with Russia. They are on the short list of getting discounted oil from Russia
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
9823 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:20 pm to
I should add that a Persian immigrant friend sold Made in the USA clothing to equip the several militaries in Europe, starting with socks.
Posted by soccerfüt
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66159 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:23 pm to
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
5850 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:25 pm to
The Germans were too obsessed with quality in WW2 and got overrun by American assembly lines. Their Tiger and Panther tanks were no doubt the best but when they knocked 2 Sherman’s out 5 more were waiting to take their place. The Willow Run plant could turn out one B-24 bomber every hour. That’s absolutely incredible and production like that will never be seen again.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:25 pm to
We barely participated in WWII and still deserve all the credit lol
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12421 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

Some keep bringing up General Winter in WWII and how the Russians will do better just like 80 years ago.

As you and others mentioned, this time it's the Russians who appear to be the poorer equipped for it.



Russia is determined to go with the German playbook, for some insane reason.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145350 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:43 pm to
Russia wasnt bombing the shite out of Syria during Trumps presidency
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