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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:57 am to
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35213 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:57 am to
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im telling you as a fellow conservative.....you should take a break from the board for a while


His choice. As a fellow conservative, you should low for it.

I find it funny that many of the “conservatives” in this thread don’t like being asked for links to supposed events. It either happened or it didn’t. If it did, and you are using it as the basis for a post, then you can link it as a source.

If not, it is simply an opinion.

While I may agree, or disagree, with an opinion, I support everyone’s right to have one.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2698 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:57 am to
12 September 2022, Monday, 12:44 1127
Encircled occupiers ready to lay down their arms in Kherson region – South Operational Command

The Russian occupiers on the right bank of the Dnieper River are ready to lay down their arms and come under the auspices of international humanitarian law, i.e. replenish the exchange fund.

Nataliya Humeniuk, the head of the press center of the Security and Defense Forces of the South Operational Command, said this on the air of the Espresso TV channel.

"We continue to advance, and this movement is quite convincing. It has an impact not only on the geographical shift of the enemy's positions, but also on a psychological one. Enemy units, starting to reformat, are looking for opportunities to contact our units in order to conduct so-called negotiations on the terms of assembling weapons and transition under the auspices of international humanitarian law. They realize that they are trapped between the bank of the Dnieper and our forces," she explained.

According to Humeniuk, the occupiers are trying to find ways to save their lives and this issue is being considered now.

Ukrainian News Agency
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
957 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 9:59 am to
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Thread has been going on for months.

Doesn't change the point.
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What do you want the US to do in this war? Would you go fight? Send your kids? your future tax dollars?

I want us to keep sending equipment and material to hollow out the Russian military so it will not be in a position to invade European countries for a long time. I do not support the U.S. putting boots on the ground in Ukraine. I have no problem with my tax dollars going to the destruction of Russia's military machine.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:00 am to
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I support everyone’s right to have one.


There are now *socially approved* positions the citizen must have which runs counter to the freedom.

I posted a link above regarding perception of reality, its pretty evident in that dudes post. People choose their own reality.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:01 am to
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Doesn't change the point.


It absolutely does, Forrest.

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I want us to keep sending equipment and material to hollow out the Russian military


I hope your taxes and your lack of deductions reflect that. I support everyones right to pay for war if they support it.

Otherwise, youre just another keyboard warrior.

This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:02 am
Posted by TitusCrow
Member since Mar 2020
68 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:02 am to
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You find Tucker staying that he is “Rooting for Russia against Ukraine” and I’m out.



November, 2019

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TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): We do care about the substance of it. And the substance of it is that Trump, for all of his sins - and I'll concede some of them - has never taken close to a million dollars a year from Ukrainian energy company to do nothing because his dad is the vice president. So, Hunter Biden did. Now, I know Hunter Biden, I actually like Hunter Biden, but that's totally corrupt and you know it. Why is it worse to ask about it than do it? 

RICHARD GOODSTEIN: Because people are dying on the front lines. You think it's a joke -- 

CARLSON: Why do I care? Why do I care what's going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia?

GOODSTEIN: Because - I'll tell you why -

CARLSON: And I'm serious. Like, why do I care? And why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which I am. 




LINK

Of course, he did walk that line back at the end of the show, but I'd put money on he was told to retract that by the execs.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:02 am to
Kuzemivka is a village in Luhansk Oblast about 30KM SE of Kupyansk. About halfway between Kupyansk and what appears to be the Russian fallback position at Svatove.

This could also be local partisan activity, so not a definitive sign of Ukraine advancing that far.

https://twitter.com/WarMonitor3/status/1569253787071643648
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Ukrainian flag was raised over Kuzemivka

It is possible Russian forces have abandoned this village.

Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35213 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:02 am to
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I have no problem with my tax dollars going to the destruction of Russia's military machine.


*Our tax dollars.

Start a go fund me, I will even contribute. I have no issue supporting Ukraine in the fight against foreign invaders.

But frick sending tens of billions of “our” tax dollars into a black hole of accounting.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:03 am to
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*Our tax dollars.


Most people support rah rah propaganda wars, if they have no skin in the game.

Its all keyboard warrior crap.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35213 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:03 am to
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Kuzemivka is a village in Luhansk Oblast about 30KM SE of Kupyansk.


Didn’t the ruskies bail on this area recently?
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:04 am to
There have been reports both ways.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9915 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:05 am to
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You find Tucker staying that he is “Rooting for Russia against Ukraine” and I’m out.


He may mean this clip.

It's from before the full-scale invasion, but it still has him saying "Why do I care what is going on in the conflict between Ukraine and Russia? I'm serious. Why shouldn't I root for Russia? Which by the way I am."

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:06 am to
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Start a go fund me,


"They" don't want to pay anything but they will, so will their kids and grandkids through taxes and inflation.
Posted by SoonerK
Member since Nov 2021
957 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:06 am to
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I hope your taxes and your lack of deductions reflect that. I support everyones right to pay for war if they support it.

Otherwise, youre just another keyboard warrior.

This is one the lamest arguments you could have. Of course, this is unsurprising based on your previous posts.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:07 am to
Video of 2 SU25's taking off from Crimea, one crashes.

https://twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1569266417085579265
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Situation in Russian aviation bad, but this.....
RIP pilot
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
39239 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:07 am to
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But frick sending tens of billions of “our” tax dollars into a black hole of accounting.
the very vast majority of those "dollars" has been equipment & munitions lend/lease.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
35213 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:07 am to
He wasn’t referencing the the invasion. My God man, that link is from TWO YEARS AGO.

Don’t be disingenuous.

That being said, if people are going to promote false narratives to use as a “gotcha,” then...

Peace out.
This post was edited on 9/12/22 at 10:10 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263330 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:08 am to
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This is one the lamest arguments you could have


Because it hits a nerve.

You advocate war, but for others.
Posted by Chromdome35
NW Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
6898 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:09 am to
BBC News with some G2 on the Kharkiv Offensive
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1569304095487414273
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A demonstration of how surprise and concentration can achieve very favourable force ratios on particular parts of a front. “Ukrainian forces outnumbered Russians by eight to one in last week's counter-attack…Russia's top occupation official there says”


Direct link to BBC Article https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62874557

Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
26166 posts
Posted on 9/12/22 at 10:10 am to
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I’ll agree to that.

Unlike others in this thread, I will honor it.

You find Tucker staying that he is “Rooting for Russia against Ukraine” and I’m out.

If not, then you are out.

Peace.


Tad more radical than I had proposed but I will accept it. As I mentioned it may take some time to find but I will give myself 24 hours (until 9AM Eastern 9/13) if I have not found it by then I will concede and withdraw from the thread and if I do find Tucker saying he is rooting for Russia you will withdraw from this thread.

Deal?
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