re: A doc about the Indians

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The Trail of Tears was a death march

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That's a hyperbolic take.
Many died along the way, but not most.
Jackson didnt give them a choice, but he did pay them and give them another place to live that wasnt a reservation.

Every president from Lincoln to Harrison literally wanted to exterminate them.

i suspect that the Cherokee tribe might actually be the missing tribe of Jews, or possible norse or irish ancestry. They kinda of came out of nowhere, and their written language has a lot of similarities. What if the original Cherokee’s had DNA consist with European or Arabic ancestry, and the native american traits etc where from breeding with other Native American tribes. The transplanted group that was hidden in the mountains (smiths) passed as white people for 100 years.

This is great article about Cherokee in Kentucky that includes Daniel Boone and some of my relatives. If you look at all the indians in the pictures at beginning you can see what i am talking about.

indians in Kentucky

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The government says that the Indians don’t own the land, so they can’t be the rightful owners. What are you talking about?

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White peoples government, not the Indians government which was there first.

I can’t believe the rationale of some of y’all justifying the conquest over the Indians and saying it wasn’t rightfully their land "because people conquer people all the time". If Hitler won WW2 I guess France and Belgium and Poland and Denmark and Russia etc should all be fine with it because "people conquer other people all the time".

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I can’t believe the rationale of some of y’all justifying the conquest over the Indians and saying it wasn’t rightfully their land "because people conquer people all the time"

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You are judging them using modern values. In those days ALL PEOPLES believed in the right of conquest. The Cherokees conquered land from aborigines; the Norse from the French, the British from the Asian Indians, the Russians from the Slavs, the Mongols from the Russians, the Chinese from the Mongols, the Japanese from the Koreans and Chinese; it goes on forever.

Only in modern times have we tried to assert the principle that current boundaries are morally permanent, and even that has been tenuous.

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I can’t believe the rationale of some of y’all justifying the conquest over the Indians and saying it wasn’t rightfully their land "because people conquer people all the time".

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I hate to break the news to you....people have won, lost, been forcibly relocated for millennia. The US, Chinese, Soviets, Mongols, Romans, Persians...every great power that existed has pushed, subjugated and relocated people. Is it wrong today - yes. I'm sure you are doing something today that someone 300 years from now will think is downright barbaric.

This nation suffers from a terrible guilty conscious and forgets the great things it has accomplished.

The US gov't probably broke every treaty they had with the native americans.
If not, they broke more than they kept.

They were fairly nomadic, the plains Indians at least.

IF you ever want to see how communism doesn't work, visit a reservation or native village.

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or the Africans

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The would have dimmed the lights on the ships and conducted drive by raids. I bet the blaring rap music and gold plated mast would have given them away before guns even started blasting.