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re: Ireland interview with Bears is tomorrow

Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:00 pm to
Posted by tigersaint74
Poopoo, Hawaii
Member since Feb 2007
669 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:00 pm to
The Saints should be doing everything they can to stop him from wanting to leave on that plane.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
167136 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:05 pm to
Jeff Ireland is not nearly as important as what is being suggested by most on here. He'll be a void that needs replacing by life will go on.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17551 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:20 pm to
Would be funny to see him get the Bears job and the Saints hiring Ryan Pace back into Ireland's job
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11601 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 3:29 pm to
I've grown fond of him. Dude isn't irreplaceable but we should do everything we can to keep him. In this very specific role he has been amazing for us. No one hits on every pick but his overall success rate is why Drew had a chance to compete for a SB every year since 2017 and why the Saints were still able to almost make the playoffs this year with Trevor Siemian at QB
Posted by Doublebagger
Member since Mar 2021
960 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 4:37 pm to
This armchair GM does not agree with this move. Loomis is whats wrong with this country. Too many BOomers holding on to their high profile jobs. Clearly someone with better talent is here. Keep him here. Keep the talent in house. Its not just a coincidence our draft process changed with evauleating talent when Ireland arrived here.
Posted by Athis
Member since Aug 2016
11903 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 4:58 pm to
I can't blame him if he takes the job.. But the Saints drafts won't be as successful..
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48700 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

Respond directly to me


I will respond to you directly. Here is my response:

You are wrong. The Loomis and Payton Duo were mediocre when it came to college and professional player acquisitions.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48700 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 5:19 pm to
quote:

Its not just a coincidence our draft process changed with evauleating talent when Ireland arrived here.


Exactly.
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28618 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 5:53 pm to
Bears fans must be like "FFS not another Saints guy!"
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58525 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 7:02 pm to
quote:

Champagne


So are you a NFL front office guru now?
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
14922 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 8:54 pm to
Do y’all think he’s worth pushing out Loomis to offer him GM?
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
27462 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:16 pm to
Yes.

You don't even have to push loomis out.

Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48700 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 9:38 pm to
quote:

So are you a NFL front office guru now?


If you say so.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/13/22 at 11:10 pm to
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Jeff Ireland is not nearly as important as what is being suggested by most on here. He'll be a void that needs replacing by life will go on.



Man it sucks to agree with Chad.....

But Jeff's claim to fame before he came here is in identifying Line talent. I would grade the defensive line talent evals as A+, OL talent evas as B-. I wonder who is really responsible for the DL, corner, safety evals. whoever is behind the LB, and OL evals needs assistance.
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:09 am to
quote:

I do sincerely hope that the Saints can one day realize the error of their ways and make the necessary corrections.

I find in life that most people don't learn things about doing it a better way unless they suffer severe adverse consequences from their own stupid mistakes. Let's see whether this rule can apply to an NFL franchise.

You have an agenda. Implying that CSP and Loomis are stupid for how they run the team while interjecting your nonsense administration strategy is the height of hubris.

You are not a Saints fan. You despise CSP. I am glad none of your suggestions, machinations, and fantasies of management have no real input into the daily administration of the New Orleans Saints.
Posted by RazzleDazzle
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2018
1289 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:15 am to
quote:

This weird structure is why the saints have been the best drafting team in the last 5 years.


And the winningest!
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72112 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:49 am to
Ireland has built out scouting department to be 20+ deep. Hard to think he’s not responsible for the talent eval turnaround. It would I appear he and his team are on the same page
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279511 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Until it's broke, you're living in the past and are very shortsighted.



It was broke…..

And they fixed it with Ireland
Posted by Mrwhodat
Member since Dec 2015
10296 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:20 am to
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It was broke…..

And they fixed it with Ireland

The fact that they brought in Ireland is a credit to CSP and Loomis.

It shows they are adaptable managers willing to make the changes necessary to be a winning organization.

People making these nonsense statements are unfairly characterizing the Saints as a failed and soon to be devastated organization.
quote:

I find in life that most people don't learn things about doing it a better way unless they suffer severe adverse consequences from their own stupid mistakes. Let's see whether this rule can apply to an NFL franchise.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279511 posts
Posted on 1/14/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

People making these nonsense statements are unfairly characterizing the Saints as a failed and soon to be devastated organization.


All of this was easily preventable.

They aren’t doomed if he leaves, but it’s a variable that very well turn bad.
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