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re: Why is it so hard to get top OC/DC at LSU

Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:30 am to
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38164 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:30 am to
I can only assume they can’t take the heat. And they don’t want to battle Saban every year. We always hear coaches would line up to be here. Well where are they? It’s strange

Or maybe it’s the traffic
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 10:32 am
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:34 am to
I am starting to think that maybe Kelly thought focusing on the recruiting part was more important than getting the coordinators in place.

He hired Wilson and Polian who are top notch recruiters and then confirmed Brad Davis would remain on staff as the position coach of probably the biggest need on the roster. The rest of the staff are in their evaluation period and are still recruiting for LSU in the hopes they may be retained. That part did have a negative effect on some. See the Joseph and Raymond departures.

If you are good at communicating your vision then you don’t necessarily need to have the coordinators in place. You just let the recruits know what type of scheme and person you are wanting.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84958 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:37 am to
It’s hard for anyone. Top level people tend to get a lot of offers and attention and their current employer tries hard to hold on to them.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158844 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:37 am to
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I am starting to think that maybe Kelly thought focusing on the recruiting part was more important than getting the coordinators in place.

He hired Wilson and Polian who are top notch recruiters and then confirmed Brad Davis would remain on staff as the position coach of probably the biggest need on the roster.

yep I think that's fairly obvious at this point
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22372 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:42 am to
Today is signing day. Coordinators and assistants will be playing musical chairs very soon.

Plus, LSU has been pushing for the best of the best - Freeman, Elkins, White - when you swing big like this it's pretty common to miss on a few.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22549 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:42 am to
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When you have bat shite fans that fire a less than two full seasons after he won a national title, players and coaches are going to be wary of coming.


When you read this, know that the person saying it roots for a team that literally fired that same coach.

Makes it even funnier
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:42 am to
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top OC/DC


Does not equal hot name.

The sooner you realize that, the better your life will be.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:50 am to
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When you have bat shite fans that fire a less than two full seasons after he won a national title, players and coaches are going to be wary of coming.


How does that explain LSU hiring Kelly away from ND? If LSU was so knee jerk to replace Orgeron, why was he not a serious candidate for any of the HC job openings?
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58063 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:54 am to
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If you can't see Orgeron completely self destructed after the National Title and keeping him on any longer would put LSU in an even deeper darker hole


This thread isn’t about what LSU fans think, it’s about perception by potential OC/DC candidates.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279519 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:58 am to
LSU has had like 1 bad DC in 20 years.

OC has been an issue due to the hiring manager.


Grabbing great, established coaches is more of a timing thing than anything else.

Early signing day throws a wrench into this. Because coaches are being fired earlier, but a lot of assistant coach candidates are either still grinding in recruiting or bowl prep, or are in the NFL.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
BATON ROUGE
Member since Mar 2017
2371 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 10:59 am to
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It is very concerning


You'll get killed for this. Anything BK does right now is bullet proof. Even if you like the hire, like myself you can't qustion anything he does because you'll get attacked and down voted! The fact he doesn't have coordinators right now is not good. Everybody knows this to be true, but you better not say it out loud.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28505 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:01 am to
Oh shut the frick up. shite y'all are irrational
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:01 am to
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When you have bat shite fans that fire a less than two full seasons after he won a national title, players and coaches are going to be wary of coming.

This is really dumb. He caught lightening in a bottle for one incredible year. The next two years he ran the program into the ground and let a toxic environment fester. So the smart thing to do would be to give him additional time to fix it? No thanks. Intelligent people understand this.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84958 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:03 am to
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This thread isn’t about what LSU fans think, it’s about perception by potential OC/DC candidates.


Despite what rival fans and sycophants like yourself want to believe, people in the industry know O is a goofball who was in hilariously over his head and at the first sign of success completely blew his life up like he was 16 years old.
This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 11:04 am
Posted by Priapism99
Rhode Island
Member since Nov 2014
1909 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:03 am to
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This post was edited on 12/15/21 at 11:08 am
Posted by El Magnifico
La casa de tu mamá
Member since Jan 2014
7017 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:10 am to
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Aranda, Canada and Pelion were big hires.
One was not hired by O however
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25127 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:14 am to
Kelly said himself when intro’d as LSU’s coach that his priority was reaching out to the current LSU commits and establishing a relationship with them.

I imagine with ESD today, he’ll switch gears a bit and we’ll have the coaching staff completed shortly.

He’s done this before at Cincinnati and ND — people need to give him more than 2 weeks and quit expecting him to wave a magic wand and fix everything in a second.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:24 am to
Ever think maybe it’s because Baton Rouge specifically and Louisiana in general is a shithole? If you’re a good candidate, you’re a good candidate everywhere. Maybe you look at the location and say “nah, I’ll pass on the 49th or 50th worst
Place in the country to live and raise a family and wait for a position in a place my
Family will be better off living.
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:25 am to
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You'll get killed for this. Anything BK does right now is bullet proof. Even if you like the hire, like myself you can't qustion anything he does because you'll get attacked and down voted! The fact he doesn't have coordinators right now is not good. Everybody knows this to be true, but you better not say it out loud.

It’s more about how you girls are going into panic mode.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84958 posts
Posted on 12/15/21 at 11:31 am to
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Ever think maybe it’s because Baton Rouge specifically and Louisiana in general is a shithole? If you’re a good candidate, you’re a good candidate everywhere. Maybe you look at the location and say “nah, I’ll pass on the 49th or 50th worst
Place in the country to live and raise a family and wait for a position in a place my
Family will be better off living.



Right because places like Norman, College Station, Tuscaloosa, and Gainesville are so fricking great
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