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Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:58 pm to
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4034 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 7:58 pm to
I’m ok with it, I’ve said it would be good to clean house.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
32272 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:00 pm to
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Except for guys like Derrick Davis Jr and Tiles and Burrow etc.


Derrick davis wasn’t even here with Aranda burrow was an offensive player etc.

I said Dave wasn’t concerned with hiring for Midwest recruiting. He was hiring a guy he trusted as a coach.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:06 pm to
Well you can't really bring in a guy to help you recruit without giving him a position to coach.

I am sure Dave hired him because he thought he was a good coach AND it helped him recruit the Midwest like I mentioned.

So let me ask you this then, were our safeties/DBs garbage before Aranda/Busch was hired? Raymond has been on staff for over decade and put plenty of talent in to the NFL. Recently at that. The guy didn't suddenly get worse. If that's the case why did we even keep him and give him raises for years?
Posted by pupdaddy6996
Member since Sep 2017
8 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:12 pm to
Wow, didnt play football much did you
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:15 pm to
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being logical




if you think calling Raymond a trash coach is logical then I don't know what to tell you.

Is he replaceable? Sure. I am just laughing at the fact that literally NO ONE on this board wanted Raymond to leave but when he does somehow he was an overrated garbage coach. It's absurd.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
13345 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:18 pm to
I'm not going to lay all of the culture issues for his position group all on Raymond. Yeah, either he helped to cause it (to minor degree) or didn't do much to course correct it (more likely, to some unknown degree). But it isn't isolated so it can't be him, all him. To me that just doesn't pass the smell test. Frankly, I think it is the bad side of him being a good recruiter; seems to be a contagion for the 5*'s... which he is damn good at reeling in.

Now, if we want revenge, and I do because it's a combination of being a LSU guy and competitive nature, the best way to do it is not ad hominem attacks but to compliment him, go hire a great OC, and torch UF through the air every year he's there.

That should be the focus now.
This post was edited on 12/8/21 at 8:19 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7233 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:20 pm to
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Now, if we want revenge, and I do because it's a combination of being a LSU guy and competitive nature, the best way to do it is not ad hominem attacks but to compliment him, go hire a great OC, and torch UF through the air every year he's there.

That should be the focus now.


I can get on board with this! This is the way people should be looking at it
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
14219 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:20 pm to
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No need to bash CR because he left LSU


But he left for fricking Florida
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
10519 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:21 pm to
Yeah I understand the sentiment, but you replaced him with a truly truly awful defensive backs coach? You know how you all watch OU defensive backs miss tackles and fail to make plays on the ball and then laugh? You just hired the former leader of that crew!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425887 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:22 pm to
This board has convinced itself that he's just going to be an analyst

...

Until he's our DBs coach

And then it will be "TRUST CBK!"
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18516 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:28 pm to
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You know how you all watch OU defensive backs miss tackles and fail to make plays on the ball and then laugh? You just hired the former leader of that crew!
Y’all players are the problem then.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 8:32 pm to
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and torch UF through the air every year he's there.


As Raymond has shown more times than not over the last 10 years, this won’t be that difficult.
Posted by Hurricane Mike
Member since Jun 2008
20059 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:21 pm to
He's coached outside of LA for 3 years in his career, let's see how he does without guaranteed talent.
Posted by tigerjunior
Member since Aug 2009
2325 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:26 pm to
I loved Corey Raymond as a coach and he was the one coach I wish Kelly would of kept. But if he ain’t with us he’s against us, frick em from here on out, I hate saban for going to bama and now I hate Raymond for going to fricking Florida. .
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 9:56 pm to
quote:

He's getting a new title and more money. Football is a business. If LSU doesn't match whatever Florida gave him then is he a traitor?


frick you and this business. This is war now
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
50062 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:02 pm to
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Shows the kind of coach he is. Honestly pretty pathetic


That’s quite a reach
Posted by BhamTigah
Lurker since Jan 2003
Member since Jan 2007
14298 posts
Posted on 12/8/21 at 10:06 pm to
Raymond was an elite recruiter. Ron Cooper was a much better on field coach.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4103 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:18 am to

Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
6974 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:53 am to
Not upset, we saw to many blown coverages the last two years. That’s even with 2-5 star recruits back there. Nobody developed
Posted by G&P
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2013
2009 posts
Posted on 12/9/21 at 5:59 am to
I’m good with a new DB coach.

Time for new blood.

Give me someone that can teach, motivate, and develop players.

Win and great DBs will flock to LSU.
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