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re: Fatherless Homes.

Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:21 pm to
Posted by HonoraryCoonass
Member since Jan 2005
18099 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:21 pm to
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Men that have fathered kids and are absent need to be publicly shamed


You can go ahead and try, but I don’t think these men are capable of feeling shame.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:26 pm to
The United States is the #1 one country in the world for single parent led households. That type of life is untenable for a healthy functional society.

We have decades worth of statistics and census data that shows fatherless children are substantially more likely to commit crimes and be victims of crimes. They also have far less educational and financial achievement than children from nuclear homes.

The building blocks of a country are it's communities and the building blocks of a community are it's families. Thus no families, no country.


We all sit around complaining without offering any solutions. Most of this single parent dilemma is government created.

We need to remove no fault divorce and incentivize married nuclear families more that the measly tax deduction that is given.


Posted by September 1948
Member since Jun 2018
2133 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:27 pm to
I am old enough to remember gov't cheese and butter, etc being given out.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to start that up again to give the lazy folk the incentive to go get a job.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18893 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:31 pm to
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The honess is on the woman.


That is how is usually works.
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6294 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
When Trump was first elected they floated out the idea of a food box delivery service for SNAP and the Walmarts, grocery stores etc went ballistic.

SNAP has become corporate Welfare as much as public. I agree though.

My grandma says "beggars can't be choosers"

People on SNAP should definitely have more restrictions or predetermined food selected monthly they can purchase.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30707 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:38 pm to
Lyndon Baines Johnson's lasting legacy
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
18143 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:48 pm to
I recently counseled a young man whose biological father had fathered 11 kids with multiple women. This man was trying to get his life in order but had zero support structure. Its an epidemic.

Removing the earned income credit would help, but you have to incentivize the nuclear family as well. Making the child tax credit only available to married filing jointly might do something - but the child tax credit is not at the top of things that bother me.

If I were dictator for a day:

1. No limit on a dollar for dollar credit for adoption. One reason abortion is so rampant is that it costs $400 when an adoption costs $40,000.

2. Put a dollar limit and a time limit on the amount of welfare that any person can use in their lifetime.

3. Remove the earned income credit in its entirety.

4. Instead of having taxes taken out of your paycheck, you write a check quarterly.

5. Get rid of social security and make it easy for people to invest into retirement accounts. An EasyIRA program of sorts, that has limited, safe conservative choices.

6. No-fault Divorce should have the same shame that bankruptcy once did. It should be difficult, expensive and have far reaching consequences on one's status, employability and such.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 12:50 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14070 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:49 pm to
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When Trump was first elected they floated out the idea of a food box delivery service for SNAP and the Walmarts, grocery stores etc went ballistic


Wouldn't be a bad idea.

A government store(s) built in certain areas allowing people to go by food items would be the next solution. Only certain bulk food items an essentials.

Think WWII rationing. Things would be difficult but you'd have food.

Posted by ItNeverRains
37069
Member since Oct 2007
25577 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:50 pm to
#5 voluntary sterilization for cradle to grave government benefits. Sounds horrible, solves a huge portion of our problems in Western Civilization.
Posted by HalfCocked
Dirty Beach
Member since Jan 2015
2291 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:51 pm to
This post is RACIST
Posted by concrete_tiger
Member since May 2020
6066 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:51 pm to
Here's one. In order to claim benefits, report to an office for your assignment, if you have no vehicle, you will be picked up by a van (that already picks these people up for other stuff, anyway).

At the end of the day, you receive a check/deposit. Essentially, make it day labor. Cities need litter pickup. Municipal cars need cleaning. Parking decks need cleaning. Offices and bathrooms need cleaning. There are a thousand jobs people can do, at least a few days per week.

In addition to work, they must report to "class" at least once or twice per week to learn a skill. At the very least, they hate it enough to get off the program.

There has to be some birth control aspect of being on assistance. I'm not sure what it is, but it is fricking absurd that people living on the government dime are allowed to continue procreating.

I went to a Food Lion today, and noticed that almost EVERY employee was 70+ years old, including a little old lady collecting carts!! These people can somehow muster the strength to work, but able-bodied folks can't manage to find or keep a job.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21725 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:52 pm to
Have to get your tubes tied if you need my tax money to take care of your illegitimate baby.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
19692 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:54 pm to
Definitely reverse the bass-ackwards incentives that Uncle Stupid has put into place. Fostering government dependence and incentivizing single parent child raising is a hugely destructive social force that the demprogs love.

They want to break the system.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:03 pm to
Some random thoughts on the subject.

I remember when teen pregnancy was so shameful the family sent the girl 'to visit her Aunt in Oklahoma' so the birth could be made and the child put up for adoption. Then the teen girl could return home with no one the wiser. Today, there is no stigma.

I can attest that my dad's presence in the family saved me. We were extremely poor but I learned stoicism from him. Don't whine. Work hard and you'll get by.

If young women today want to get married to a good man lose some weight, don't get tattoos, get a job and present yourself as an equal partner, not a leach.


Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45066 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:03 pm to
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I went to a Food Lion today, and noticed that almost EVERY employee was 70+ years old, including a little old lady collecting carts!! These people can somehow muster the strength to work, but able-bodied folks can't manage to find or keep a job.


Disability fraud is a huge, huge part of this and it never gets talked about.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68924 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:03 pm to
make work requirements for all of it.


Like poster above said, so many jobs that need to be done. They can repaint light posts for all i care.

But youve got to get people off their asses and to earn the tax payers money.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 1:06 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37157 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:04 pm to
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I am old enough to remember gov't cheese and butter, etc being given out.

It wouldn't be a bad idea to start that up again to give the lazy folk the incentive to go get a job.


The right wants to constantly "privatize" things.

Getting rid of government cheese and going to food stamps was one of the biggest examples of Privatization there is.

How's that working out?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Disability fraud is a huge, huge part of this and it never gets talked about.


It came up on Judge Judy in about 100 episodes:

Judy: 'How do you support yourself?'
Young man: 'I'm on disability.'
Judy: 'What does your girlfriend do?'
Young man: 'She's on disability, too.'
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101662 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:10 pm to
quote:


Disability fraud is a huge, huge part of this and it never gets talked about.


Problem is, we’ve created so many outlets to “milk the system” we could spend all day every day trying to “talk about” them all and still not exhaustively cover everything.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68924 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:10 pm to
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Getting rid of government cheese and going to food stamps was one of the biggest examples of Privatization there is.

How's that working out?


JFK then LBJ.

The most Americans in raw numbers and % of the population were on food stamps under Obama.

Once again this is democrat utopia.

This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 1:17 pm
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