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Zach Ragan: “The latest sign that Billy Napier won’t last at Florida”
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:24 am
Article: The latest sign that Billy Napier won’t last at Florida
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It’s probably too early to start suggesting that Florida Gators head coach Billy Napier isn’t going to last in Gainesville, but sometimes you just have a feeling.
And when it comes to college football coaches, that feeling usually isn’t wrong.
Napier is 4-4 through his first eight games at Florida. That’s not a bad start, but it’s not what Gators fans expect, either.
Remember, Napier’s predecessor, Dan Mullen, won 21 games over his first two seasons. And he was fired after a 5-6 season in 2021 (he was fired with one game remaining in the regular season). There isn’t a lot of patience in Gainesville.
If Napier doesn’t quickly get results — which he isn’t getting so far — he’ll be out the door.
The signs are there that Billy Napier won’t last at Florida
The biggest way you can tell that a coach is not long for a program is when the media turns on a coach. You can say that interactions between a coach and media members don’t matter, but those are the folks that are around and see the coach for who he really is. And when they change their tone toward a coach, it usually means that a change is on the horizon.
That’s why the soundbite that we heard on Monday, when a media member was heard saying “I’ll be here longer than Billy Napier, I can guarantee that”, is a likely indicator that Napier won’t be at Florida long-term.
Florida fans will ridicule that reporter and suggest he’s trying to create drama — even though it was a hot mic moment and not something on the record.
But they need to understand that what that reporter said is likely how a lot of folks in the room with Napier on a regular basis are feeling.
And if the folks who are seeing Napier regularly feel that way, why should fans who aren’t around the program on a daily basis feel any differently?
Florida fans shouldn’t get too attached to Napier. He’ll be back in the Sun Belt before Oklahoma and Texas become official members of the SEC in 2025.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:29 am to Between TheHedges
That escalated quickly
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:29 am to Between TheHedges
I love stuff like this
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:29 am to Between TheHedges
I am so very thankful LSU did not hire this guy.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:30 am to tigerfan84
I expect photoshops of Clesi with him soon.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 am to Between TheHedges
I am not a Napier fan but Mullen was an incredibly awful and lazy recruiter. At least give this guy 2 years before this starts up
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:31 am to beauchristopher
You HAVE to give a college head coach at least a few years to get his style of recruiting class together.
I don't really get the Billy Napier hate. He may not succeed at Florida, but he should get a few years.
I don't really get the Billy Napier hate. He may not succeed at Florida, but he should get a few years.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:32 am to Between TheHedges
Is this the guy that got caught on the hot mic?
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:33 am to BearCrocs
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You HAVE to give a college head coach at least a few years to get his style of recruiting class together.
I think that type of patience is gone tbh.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:34 am to Between TheHedges
I don't understand this. Year 1 and he's only lost to ranked teams. Also has a top 10 class at the moment when I believe they were in the 70s or something when he took over. Also this team gave up 52 to Samford last year. I don't know what people were expecting.
It may not work out but this seems extremely premature.
It may not work out but this seems extremely premature.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:36 am to beauchristopher
quote:
I am so very thankful LSU did not hire this guy
And I am so very thankful that FLoorida did.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:39 am to Fun Bunch
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I am not a Napier fan but Mullen was an incredibly awful and lazy recruiter. At least give this guy 2 years before this starts up
Ehhhh
They won the east two years ago and were literally looking at a CFP berth up until the last Saturday of the regular season.
They were pre season top 15 last year.
Plus in the portal era?
Not much excuse to be looking up at Mizzou in the sec standings.
He got lucky that Utah was at home in September. No way for those guys to adjust to the heat and humidity that quickly.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:39 am to Between TheHedges
This feels like a media member being petty over a perceived slight from fans, with a touch of inflated sense of self-importance.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:42 am to BearCrocs
quote:In todays transfer world and NIL deals..it really doesnt take as long as history would suggest.
You HAVE to give a college head coach at least a few years to get his style of recruiting class together.
Kelly is an outlier, but he changed the entire team in a matter of months.
Napier is not used to being questioned at every turn, and the media and him are getting testy.
Look at Kelly, the media is eating him up with a spoon, he is pleasant, he is in command.
That is the difference in a Sun Belt Coach, and one of the winningest coaches in NCAA history.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:43 am to BearCrocs
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You HAVE to give a college head coach at least a few years to get his style of recruiting class together.
I don't really get the Billy Napier hate. He may not succeed at Florida, but he should get a few years.
It's not hate to not want a particular coach. My issue is his actual coaching decisions. I am thankful LSU was not interested and aimed higher.
Florida fans are already disgusted by his in game decisions. This isn't about letting him get his recruiting classes in. He mismanages games. I am not fan. This isn't new to this year.
What I don't get is Louisiana people being so defensive over Napier. I assume just because he coached at ULL. One of us I suppose? That is irrelevant to me. The man went to Furman and is from Tennessee.
This post was edited on 11/4/22 at 11:47 am
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:49 am to beauchristopher
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I am so very thankful LSU did not hire this guy.
I mean yes I’m glad we have Kelly, but I’m not about to side with media personnel 8 games into a coach’s tenure.
Media, across the board, needs to be taken down several notches. They have a grossly overinflated sense of their own importance and they need to be treated as such.
This makes me support Napier even more.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:50 am to Between TheHedges
These kinds of things lead to blood in the waters of the cut-throat world of SEC recruiting. Once this stuff starts, it's nearly impossible to come back from.
What will end up happening is that Florida will hold onto him long enough to feign having given him a chance to right the ship knowing full well that the external influences absolutely won't allow that to happen.
As an LSU fan, I couldn't be happier that there are already issues with his tenure. Auburn boosters never getting out of their own way is great for us as well. A&M being themselves is another thing that will keep us near the top of the West.
Chaos all around while fanbases will point to Heupel and Kelly and say "they could turn it around quickly, why can't our guy?"
What will end up happening is that Florida will hold onto him long enough to feign having given him a chance to right the ship knowing full well that the external influences absolutely won't allow that to happen.
As an LSU fan, I couldn't be happier that there are already issues with his tenure. Auburn boosters never getting out of their own way is great for us as well. A&M being themselves is another thing that will keep us near the top of the West.
Chaos all around while fanbases will point to Heupel and Kelly and say "they could turn it around quickly, why can't our guy?"
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:52 am to ibldprplgld
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This makes me support Napier even more.
Based on early results, I also support Napier at Florida. Hope he gets a lifetime contract.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:53 am to BearCrocs
BTW, I agree all new coaching hires should get around 3 years unless something really crazy happened. Can still give an opinion. I don't care for his offense, game day coaching decisions, or his personality. That's just an opinion that could easily be proven wrong in time. I like the direction LSU is going without Napier. I would be concerned if Napier was the coach of my favorite team.
Posted on 11/4/22 at 11:59 am to Adam Banks
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Ehhhh They won the east two years ago and were literally looking at a CFP berth up until the last Saturday of the regular season. They were pre season top 15 last year. Plus in the portal era? Not much excuse to be looking up at Mizzou in the sec standings. He got lucky that Utah was at home in September. No way for those guys to adjust to the heat and humidity that quickly.
FLoorida pulled the trigger on firing Mullen too quick
They really messes up firing Mullen and replacing him with someone like Napier
Maybe if they were bringing Urban back or getting Lincoln Riley or Brian Kelly, sure fire Mullen.
But they really messed up big time last year.
What a disaster!
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