re: Sell me on Mel Tucker

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Wait until after the next 5 game stretch.

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So LSU's future coach is playing 11/27 got it

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Let shite play out.

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That's not why we're here though

Tucker is going to sell himself in the coming weeks. Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn St to close out the season.

I guess Purdue is ranked now as well.

Whether he sells himself well is the question, but it's going to work itself out.

At the danger of repeating myself (in general, not to you Capt.)...

Don't care how many games he wins or loses as long as it isn't pitiful. Bowl game eligible is the mendoza line for context here.

- Are his teams in those games when he loses?
- how energetic and efficient are those practices?
- how are the position coaches to coordinators to HC responsibilities structured? Are they integrated so all on same page.
- How's their film study? Are they using both approaches in game planning and interpersonal development (also helps with recruiting)?
- Are there multiple players who step up to be "coaches on the field" (e.g. Devin White, Burrow)? Are they given the recognition, encouragement, and resources to do just that or are the viewed as "out of line"?
- Is there an overall integrated recruiting strategy where positions of need (and that position coach) gets more resources when needed? Is it flexible enough to move those resources around or is it "every coach for themselves"?
- Where is he recruiting from? Is he locked into a footprint and can't get traction outside that footprint (always a bad sign)?

I know you wanted to be sold on Mel, and I thought of the exact same scene and was coming to post something snarky (in my head anyway) about that, but ended up with neither.

However, in the answer to those questions (which neither have) lies your sales points.

So the starting point is, since he has been around a bit, enough anyway, and worked under Saban did he pick up on AND use some of Saban's processes? If it looks like he did, Saban did recommend him to MSU, then you can ask those questions presuming some answers.

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I like to believe LSU can aim higher.

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#MeToo

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2. 1 year as DB coach

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1 year DB at LSU, a second year at Bama (after he was fired as Bears DC) as AHC/DB and was then promoted to DC with Kirby at UGA.

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Also, isn't Georgia's defense really a product of Kirby? I think they have a solid defense regardless who is DC in title.

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Certainly - and Kirby is a DB coach, too. Ask yourself this - why would Kirby take him to UGA with him, then?

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3. I believe he has also been fired as DC in the NFL?

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Yes. So have lots of folks. Todd Grantham, for example (whom Tucker replaced at Cleveland and, frankly, did a bang up job there.)

I'm not sold on him, either. I'm just selling as requested in the OP.

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Sell me on Mel Tucker

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Not at the top of my list, but I like him...

NFL experience.
Coached under Saban at LSU.
Coached under Saban at Bama as the Assistant head coach and defensive backs coach on the 2015 National Championship team.
In 2016 he left Bama with Kirby Smart and went to UGA as DC. Stayed for 3 years until he took the Colorado HC job.
He took the Mich State job after signing day and a month before the covid closures. The big 10 kinda fricked everyone's 2020 season.
For 2021, he rebuilt his team using the transfer portal. Weak opponents or not, they are winning games that they weren't winning before he got there.

There are better candidates available, but there are certainly worse options too.

On a side note, the 2015 bama staff was impressive... Lane Kiffin, Kirby Smart, Mario Cristobal, Billy Napier, Mel Tucker

I'm more curious what kind of D he runs

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He is, allegedly, a top shelf recruiter.

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this is all we need.

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I'm more curious what kind of D he runs

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Hes about to lose 4 of the next 5 games.