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re: Ole Miss and LSU spending the same amount of NIL money isn't really "the same"....
Posted on 11/25/25 at 7:58 am to ATLTiger
Posted on 11/25/25 at 7:58 am to ATLTiger
Ole Miss hit lightning in a bottle with Chambliss - he was a late eval by Charlie Weiss Jr.
OIe Miss has done well in managing their "cap". 2024 they went all-in like LSU did in 25. This year Ole Miss money-balled their defense because the portal was so expensive on defense last cycle, which is how they ended up with guys like Sage Ryan and Womack who had talent but no production.
They did hit on other portal guys tho so it's clear they were really good at fit and eval.
OIe Miss has done well in managing their "cap". 2024 they went all-in like LSU did in 25. This year Ole Miss money-balled their defense because the portal was so expensive on defense last cycle, which is how they ended up with guys like Sage Ryan and Womack who had talent but no production.
They did hit on other portal guys tho so it's clear they were really good at fit and eval.
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:01 am to Original Bayou Boy
quote:This, along with the rest of your post, is delusional and reflects a refusal to accept that NIL has changed everything. Most of the advantages LSU has enjoyed in the past are diluted by NIL.
LSU being a national brand can attract better players from across the U.S.
quote:What, precisely, have you seen from the leadership at LSU to suggest they're going to make better decisions than competitors?
LSU will use their money to shop at a better marketplace - Think Fresh Market.
Again, this is delusional thinking based on the state of the world a couple of decades ago.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:01 am to Original Bayou Boy
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No, your response to an obvious troll shows you need to get off the computer.
Was it obvious?
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Either post something true, something to make others laugh
You didn’t do either.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:02 am to Original Bayou Boy
Ole Miss shops at Whole Foods. They think it’s fancy but it’s just overpriced Amazon.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:03 am to coolpapaboze
youre very wrong.
LSU will always recruit highschool better than a program like Ole Miss.
Ole miss can compete with blue bloods in the transfer portal via NIL, but not highschool recruiting. Thats why the blue bloods continue to recruit at a top 10 clip, and Ole miss will recruit around where it normally does 18-22
Highschool recruiting is and always will be the key to stability. As saban said, you cant be consistent relying on the portal every single year.
LSU will always recruit highschool better than a program like Ole Miss.
Ole miss can compete with blue bloods in the transfer portal via NIL, but not highschool recruiting. Thats why the blue bloods continue to recruit at a top 10 clip, and Ole miss will recruit around where it normally does 18-22
Highschool recruiting is and always will be the key to stability. As saban said, you cant be consistent relying on the portal every single year.
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 8:04 am
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:05 am to Original Bayou Boy
Texas = HEB
Florida = Publix
NFL = Wegman’s
Florida = Publix
NFL = Wegman’s
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:12 am to Original Bayou Boy
If I offer you $1,000,000 to go to LSU and $1,100,000 to go to OM where are you going?
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:12 am to Original Bayou Boy
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Ole Miss isn't a national brand and Oxford isn't exactly a hotspot for young athletes.
Ole Miss is just as a national brand as LSU is. What do you think Baton Rouge has to offer that Oxford doesn’t? Do you think Baton Rouge is a hot spot?
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:16 am to Original Bayou Boy
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I've been on TD since September 2003
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post something to make others laugh
Nice job.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:16 am to Original Bayou Boy
quote:So LSU will over pay for seemingly better products that actually are the same quality or worse than other marketplaces
LSU will use their money to shop at a better marketplace - Think Fresh Market.
quote:So Ole Miss will be smart and shop for products that aren’t marked up like crazy for no reason and they will actually get the job done.
Ole Miss will use their money to shop at - Think Piggly Wiggly
Sounds about like how things have gone the last 5 years
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:18 am to TigerGrad03
quote:You are out of touch if this is how you think it had been
I know LSU has been working on this for a couple years. I am not sure if Ole Miss has.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:19 am to TT
No, Ole Miss hasn't won a National Championship in almost 70 years.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:23 am to JSO24
quote:I'm not. You'll have a few players in a given year go to LSU because they're from LA and want to play for LSU. But there is no denying that going forward there's going to be a subset of players from LSU that will leave for $$, moreso than would have prior to NIL. That is just the reality we are in. So sure, Louisiana may have a recruiting edge, but it's been diluted due to NIL. It's true a school like Ole Miss doesn't have the in state recruiting prospects that LSU does, but now they can attract a few of those recruits that they previously couldn't, because of NIL.
youre very wrong.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:25 am to memphisplaya
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So who is shopping Costco
If we go there can we get a giant tub of offensive linemen?
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:30 am to Henry Jones Jr
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You are out of touch if this is how you think it had been
I know for a fact that LSU has been working for at least 2.5 years on lining up brands and companies to move forward in the NIL space once the clearinghouse went live. We knew it was coming and the setup we have currently wasn't built overnight.
NIL from 2 years ago is gone. Ole Miss was one of the first to cannonball in. Good on y'all. I have no clue if you have the infrastructure set up to pass all the NIL deals through Deloitte or not now, which is what you have to do since July.
Based on the fact that Lane hasn't signed the extension, I am guessing the NIL plan Carter laid out last week wasn't what LSU and possibly Florida laid out.
Feel free to educate us on what Ole Miss has been doing to update their NIL to meet clearinghouse standards. We're all ears.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:31 am to Original Bayou Boy
Money is money they didn't care where it comes from
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:37 am to coolpapaboze
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I'm not. You'll have a few players in a given year go to LSU because they're from LA and want to play for LSU. But there is no denying that going forward there's going to be a subset of players from LSU that will leave for $$, moreso than would have prior to NIL. That is just the reality we are in. So sure, Louisiana may have a recruiting edge, but it's been diluted due to NIL. It's true a school like Ole Miss doesn't have the in state recruiting prospects that LSU does, but now they can attract a few of those recruits that they previously couldn't, because of NIL.
I agree that it's been diluted. The degree of which is still TBD. It's kind of like the inverse of MLB. LSU previously held a good advantage because it had a better "farm system" than many schools...in a world where the only option to build was through the farm system. Now, with free agency, the "small market" teams, like an Ole Miss, don't have to try to compete solely through HS recruiting. They can build through other means. And franking, they've had great success doing so. If they win on Friday, Ole Miss will be 32-6 over the last three seasons. A big part of that has to do with Kiffin. But even with Kiffin at the helm, Ole Miss wouldn't have been able to have that level of success without the ability to grab experienced transfers every season.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:49 am to Alt26
Totally agree. I don't think we've seen a team win a championship solely through buying a roster, and most of the teams that have tried that have sort of flamed out (LSU this year, Ole Miss last year, Texas A&M with recruits a few years ago). So it's not like you can rely on just NIL, there has to be more. My issue with what a lot are saying is that they think LSU has some kind of permanent and immutable advantage, and is obviously head and shoulders above Ole Miss, and I just don't think that is true anymore. I think Kiffin can absolutely win a championship at Ole Miss in the current environment.
Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:51 am to Original Bayou Boy
Schools can only guarantee up to a certain amount which I think is 20.5mm
Anything over that isn’t “guaranteed”
Anything over that isn’t “guaranteed”
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:01 am to coolpapaboze
Once again, its a total thing not a single player here or there.
If ole miss was going to consistently recruit similar to LSU in the NIL era, why do they struggle to even come remotely close?
The blue bloods will always dominate high school recruiting, thats a non debatable issue. It is also the difference in program stability that tier 3 programs like ole miss will not benefit from.
You will see teams like this year and last year for ole miss - which have very good, elite level starters, but poor depth. Ultimately why they will not be able to compete for national championships consistently. There is very little development and entirely reliant on hits through the portal - which we know is not a guarantee.
If ole miss was going to consistently recruit similar to LSU in the NIL era, why do they struggle to even come remotely close?
The blue bloods will always dominate high school recruiting, thats a non debatable issue. It is also the difference in program stability that tier 3 programs like ole miss will not benefit from.
You will see teams like this year and last year for ole miss - which have very good, elite level starters, but poor depth. Ultimately why they will not be able to compete for national championships consistently. There is very little development and entirely reliant on hits through the portal - which we know is not a guarantee.
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